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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: 0.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=AybiO8yS; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [0.09 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.4963929059334]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; R_DKIM_REJECT(1.00)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.12), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:-]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[zimontoutoune@gmail.com,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[gnu.org:email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:from]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed),none] X-TUID: toX04d2xMqBL On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 16:08, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > > when installing a few packages we see output like this: > > > > $ guix install zile-on-guile vim-full > > The following packages will be installed: > > zile-on-guile 2.4.14-0.fd09781 > > vim-full 8.2.0411 > > > > 9.4 MB will be downloaded: > > /gnu/store/vf7w4yiax38ra7x8aqqvbnc38c0ldgpm-zile-on-guile-2.4.14-0.f= d09781 > > /gnu/store/dnj9wljcck9vdwgp7dwxk00qnnk1g3c5-vim-full-8.2.0411 > > downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/dnj9wljcck9vdwgp7dwxk= 00qnnk1g3c5-vim-full-8.2.0411... > > [..] > > > While I=E2=80=99m sure many of us have gotten used to this I think we d= on=E2=80=99t need > > to show quite as much information. My proposal is to hide the > > =E2=80=9Cdownloading from =E2=80=9D by default, becaus= e the URLs don=E2=80=99t > > really matter to users. We can unhide that bit of info when slightly > > higher verbosity is requested. > > > > What do you think? +2 > I've been using --verbosity=3D1 a lot, lately; I'm all for having another= , > more quiet but not silent level and bumping the defaults. I am using *shell* from Emacs with 'guix-prettify-mode' enabled. Maybe it could be extended to 'https://ci.guix.gnu.org/...-'. All the best, simon