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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1632849165; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=NlhwySAl4c8HFmI6ao4FUtP7SWGbWOwFOU7Zn7C/uL4=; b=Ndy5ZqsX4kIyegGj4P+ktFAIVcZVS2Kk/5Co8xUzs3i81gTZRI8Ab1HFiAwxcO5ZPU9vSK 9GT6t7vn2BC+QtNlIrIyVM0feWoTtmEBNdre56ctZdezJfq7wSeI74sWBVKsRGziP+F6vz mkRSupj8DB92rnxSiIKZ4rWPBVql2FEVYPvNuacWW+ImBuTtM5d3cHB6+qXDWP8e1Jeiua B86dP11sFf6gGYN4niYPvByhWNE4IU3S5hU4evO1v2oqcK2qN1zdGiTwsswhVG9INdTmXl WEtMP/hLw7Lu7tAJZXUUr+smowWpIVRLwBANc7c2jIvhmvkeYnlBcp5Vfd32Qg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1632849165; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OCjrZk9PssWfFMWgqdzFFmXRykf7vu2KGXIZQ15sFVplPMmXfXkm3/iGletdDrxc744gdW 72mMll1/hRinPiSC/bwe0MgW4ZF6+ovs3A0j71TFervKtsh54urJehwJIlcHL/aVZQqeDm k6i4iiuzo7vti2ymgJlXd7aCAMDnKjywXBaxJTFr7T0aljFw6VJOuFQoAnCaQsM6incbo3 kaLARTuWF2XT7uMGZaad8j2pfFFMfXvPoxZZB0jMO2JB1PdPWUN43ZgIDlpzxyarWOiKH6 srTDpnX9aDfd4j+l4zU0V+LVsrInm+X6220P7maVKrjOE6tfYuwc179WC8ZlMw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=FQ9Vsuue; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.10 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=FQ9Vsuue; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B955314B8D X-Spam-Score: -3.10 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: i4wzV0SaN3Ok Hi, On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 16:32, Jason Self wrote: > > Granted that old/gen7 is not currently a valid URL but we can know > that, 5 or 10 years from now, when Linux-libre has moved on to the 8th, > 9th or even 10th generation, the 7th generation scripts will exist > there. If Guix can begin checking those additional locations now then, > in the future once the current Guix version becomes an old version, > hopefully it can transparently handle that transition without issue. Or > just use git. :) I am not familiar with the Linux Libre scripts. Are these scripts already under a Git repo? The method you are proposing seems awkward; as you say, old/gen7 is not currently a valid URL. And you are proposing that you set in stone now this URL expecting that maybe it will be valid in the future. Ah future cannot be predicted. ;-) Who knows that this old/ folder will not be renamed as 'not-fully-free' or whatever. Working with URL limits the time-travel because it is a really poor mechanism (and not robust at all) for content-address something, IMHO. Well, maybe I miss a point or something. Cheers, simon