From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: zimoun Subject: Re: How to present Guix to a wider audience Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:18:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <878smq41kg.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <8736cqarof.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipHnA-000067-Gz for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 15:19:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipHn7-0000eu-Q8 for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 15:18:59 -0500 Received: from mail-qk1-x734.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::734]:35104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipHn6-0000bt-LY for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 15:18:57 -0500 Received: by mail-qk1-x734.google.com with SMTP id z76so3905267qka.2 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 12:18:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8736cqarof.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Pierre Neidhardt Cc: help-guix Hi Pierre, On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 16:33, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: > - Computers, smartphones, etc. are around us. > - They are used in research, banking, etc. > - They can be used to store our private data. > - They can be abused (e.g. maybe heard about Snowden). > > Carl Dong's video is the closest to what I'm looking for. > > I'd prefer a text format though. Besides, if we don't want to exhaust > the patience of our users before pronouncing the word "Guix", I > think it's important to make it a very short read, say 5 minutes, or > some 1000 words. Ahaha! Good luck! :-) My experience: I explained to friends or family who fit your list above: + trusting trust: with 5 minutes, it is ok using the yogourt=yogourt+milk analogy; + asymmetric cypher, cross-compilation, torrent, etc.: with 5 mins, it is ~okish too - Guix: I have always failed; even with 15min. Even failed with scientific colleagues who uses classical linux distro. For example, I did an attempt here [1]. [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-12/msg00326.html The issue is because each time my "audience" is too far from the problems Guix fix. Other said, how do you explain why profiles, manifests, roll-back, declarative stuff, etc. are so cool when the "audience" only knows Word, Excel, Browser and some apps on smartphones? I do not want to be pessimistic but it is hard to introduce Guix for general public. > (Carl Dong's video is 16 minute long, and Guix is only introduced at the > end.) > > As Ricardo said, I believe such a general presentation would be very > welcome on Guix' front page. > > Anyone interested in writing such a text? IMHO, a good start is to write down typical use cases/scenarii that Guix solves. What do you think? All the best, simon