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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: help-guix <help-guix@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: How to present Guix to a wider audience
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:18:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ2JmbytaKRptU1mgrvxgtw6ZKtr0+Og=1eFjbfPAVBZnA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8736cqarof.fsf@ambrevar.xyz>

Hi Pierre,

On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 16:33, Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> wrote:

> - Computers, smartphones, etc. are around us.
> - They are used in research, banking, etc.
> - They can be used to store our private data.
> - They can be abused (e.g. maybe heard about Snowden).
>
> Carl Dong's video is the closest to what I'm looking for.
>
> I'd prefer a text format though.  Besides, if we don't want to exhaust
> the patience of our users before pronouncing the word "Guix", I
> think it's important to make it a very short read, say 5 minutes, or
> some 1000 words.

Ahaha! Good luck! :-)

My experience: I explained to friends or family who fit your list above:
 + trusting trust: with 5 minutes, it is ok using the
yogourt=yogourt+milk analogy;
 + asymmetric cypher, cross-compilation, torrent, etc.: with 5 mins,
it is ~okish too
 - Guix: I have always failed; even with 15min.

Even failed with scientific colleagues who uses classical linux
distro. For example, I did an attempt here [1].

[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-12/msg00326.html


The issue is because each time my "audience" is too far from the
problems Guix fix. Other said, how do you explain why profiles,
manifests, roll-back, declarative stuff, etc. are so cool when the
"audience" only knows Word, Excel, Browser and some apps on
smartphones?

I do not want to be pessimistic but it is hard to introduce Guix for
general public.


> (Carl Dong's video is 16 minute long, and Guix is only introduced at the
> end.)
>
> As Ricardo said, I believe such a general presentation would be very
> welcome on Guix' front page.
>
> Anyone interested in writing such a text?

IMHO, a good start is to write down typical use cases/scenarii that
Guix solves. What do you think?


All the best,
simon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-02 10:03 How to present Guix to a wider audience Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-02 18:18 ` zimoun
2020-01-08 15:33   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-08 16:32     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-08 20:18     ` zimoun [this message]
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     [not found]         ` <CAJ3okZ1CQ1zvbHnFT6EmB+yYFwcAszZ0baroyj03LzTK7AhBXw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-10  9:52           ` wisdomlight--- via
2020-01-10 12:19             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-02 19:20 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-08 15:26   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 11:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:58   ` Jack Hill
2020-01-14 17:00     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 21:01       ` Jack Hill
2020-01-14 23:44   ` Dimakakos Dimos
2020-01-15  0:07   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-01-15  8:52     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15  0:20   ` Josh
2020-01-15  8:57     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15  5:59   ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-15  8:53     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15  8:59   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 17:44     ` sirgazil
2020-01-19 11:03       ` Todor Kondić
2020-01-19 15:57         ` wisdomlight
2020-01-21 21:49   ` ndre
2020-01-22 11:00     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 17:35       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-23 14:44         ` Kelsang Sherab
2020-01-23 21:25           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-11  7:45   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-11 17:38     ` Josh Marshall

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