Re: GNU Guix 0.2 released

[Matthew Lien <bluet@bluet.org>]

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2 minor (webpage) bug report:

1. the link available as pre-built
binaries<http://hydra.gnu.org/jobset/gnu/master#tabs-status>in
'Status' on
http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/ is dead.
(hydra.gnu.org down?)

2. 'Download Area' on http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/guix/ points to a
404 location.
Maybe list those two links on the project page?
    ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guix-0.2.tar.gz
    ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/guix-0.2.tar.gz.sig


Best wishes,
BlueT - Matthew Lien - ¾š†´Ã÷



2013/5/16 Ludovic Court¨¨s <ludo@gnu.org>

> (Stripping Cc list.)
>
> Brandon Invergo <brandon@invergo.net> skribis:
>
> > Guix, on the other hand, is a full package manager that will eventually
> > form the foundation of a GNU distribution.  It has far more features as
> > a package manager, including some really novel ones that go above and
> > beyond the usual package management functionality (better to let Ludovic
> > explain).
>
> Yes.  Basically Guix is two things: a package manager (like, say,
> dpkg/APT), and a distribution.
>
> The package manager provides the features tools like APT implement.
> From a user¡¯s viewpoint, in addition to what common package managers
> implement, it supports nifty features, detailed at
> <http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Features>.
>
> From a developer¡¯s viewpoint, its functional approach simplifies
> reasoning about package composition, and allows developers to actually
> check that packages do build and work together (see
> <http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Introduction>.)
> Also, it has a Scheme API that makes packaging relatively easy (see
> <http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Programming-Interface
> >).
>
> > The Guix distribution will provide all of the software necessary to
> > have a complete, bootable GNU system, including non-GNU packages.  It
> > will also handle all the fun "under-the-hood" stuff like system
> > configuration and initialization, etc.
>
> Yes.  Currently the distro has ~400 packages, and can only be used atop
> a running GNU/Linux system.  In that sense, it¡¯s comparable to GSRC in
> that it provides a way to install the latest versions of GNU packages
> (though GSRC has more GNU packages, I think.)
>
> But as Brandon notes, the longer-term goal is to build ¡°the GNU System¡±.
> Until now, the GNU Project has been providing many independent packages,
> which have been integrated and delivered to final users by others.
>
> In a way, this is great, because it¡¯s a sign that the free software
> ideals have expanded way beyond the GNU Project.
>
> However, I believe it¡¯s also detrimental to GNU in several ways.
> Distros have been making compromises, in particular to software freedom,
> that contradict GNU¡¯s vision.  Integration of GNU software, and cohesion
> among the various GNU packages has arguably suffered.  Distros have
> contributed to a disconnection between users and developers of GNU
> packages.  Distro branding has made GNU, and to some extent its
> political message, much less visible to users.  Etc.
>
> Having a GNU distro is an opportunity to fix these problems.  A stronger
> GNU Project is good for individual GNU packages, and it¡¯s good for
> software freedom.
>
> Let¡¯s build that GNU System!  :-)
>
> Ludo¡¯.
>
>


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