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To: Andreas Enge Cc: Julien Lepiller , guix-devel@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=208.82.101.137; envelope-from=felix.lechner@lease-up.com; helo=sail-ipv4.us-core.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-to: Felix Lechner From: Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lease-up.com header.s=2017 header.b=rzLWl9Gj; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1676320767; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aCrLFY4sl8OuTaRdV8yWaFAjAv1VXosKmb0qSnux4Nm8ekzsmh3sjfUpVt3AzTgMDTscxd 9AsRfSWvBEAfiTwo27soNysXh9Vqp+IDPXDiFt+ehaWY4PPASitz0hiXvWDpoVREfsoB8K GsXPDya3h8bgSqy8A09nfaeBFMb42JHrdi+njYdzT4mAPTYyLquenrsdLxzArDlJOGuOkk Nr6sVF8tbaPBu403/pgT4i9jnF//YnBxK4d1w+ZSIKKGGmKZusQj3nbcJSFaJQArikHvY2 +MHOxWkm02qMNWBbEP2ydqtIS80vHw1dvClkh5pDG1LoFYK2YF5G2Se2F619lQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1676320767; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Q9/4qAj8ffBT69WogzuSzGtvb9tbji+9KcSbbKEAKZI=; b=o04UGPEZcBZHwc6z/sR/75kohCNtZ5+ikWO4ie2Vk23S71mp4nlFf4TCi9zfmdLiJXrc0t oT2kRzEjih6huJZ72Oz0CxqHx8EYbXX20LdJNlFbwh94LK0PoW5tywOh+fVMGkv7tFDQa5 pqqu8Nhmg84ztaADkw1zi6WcCzqixnvjVCnRvRvsiox+CPqOte6W0n9jEQHJpBL1gw3e7S UGoK3C47GP0iZyX+nVuU/GTh/dy4BIj5MfFnwvKuVGWoLS5eGLzSgt8B4cEPx+ZB+nKIik GuXLUSZ+YCFevKDMZEn2devB49dTrUdjv4J2v6eqqfYnxdhjjFGQfpiTo7h5PA== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.42 X-Spam-Score: -2.42 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8AB2DEAC0 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lease-up.com header.s=2017 header.b=rzLWl9Gj; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-TUID: Cfjj1yc4Eq2X Hi On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 12:22 PM Andreas Enge wrote: > > It looks like we have reached the Debian trap How about applying selectively those patches from core-updates that do not break anything? It would split the difference. Future changes waiting in Debbugs could join the remainder, which needs more work. Later, the new branch could go through the same procedure, i.e. any breakage would be caught. The new process would be gradual and allow some commits to advance into the project history (also known as the 'master' branch) within a predicable time frame. Thanks everyone for your hard work! Kind regards Felix Lechner