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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617396540; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=0lcCUkC7/nkqr7hfVDUp3aixKst3bpyEaigt8C7A2Pg=; b=dxhkepeTv5cYiRLMjRcy7AjUs1pYn7dyiY26FrMwXp81/q4ANQQ0S66BaUNnS11WhKYXYT g1oDCaQikTRfvpuzaz4ICgVu0hsFkUt34tjvSXbYTgvxSD4uQf4ow3/mE7078zZiOLVmBA kIIIDFqxpJ3lTZkwASXUtR5wI1F97vEf3pPjLK0jSsgCFvZf8fDLXj2Jqxh6IrgYmnlu8I zFTfH/VURUb0iN8D6AJAf+gtrBDC2BCl4Y6OKB76BbV8z2jolG3Y40EBFGcrTjvPXz7qrO eF+9XofPP2He1TRCtKukdRRQ884Kn2Id4MpD1NGIbtbdAdrRv5fEbp3iYNJR/w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617396540; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=okKf37UEOCj+yhNjiSXYbAnJzQCg6INo8sjONr7P3NgdtBQWByvRtjZmomuCMopsepP2US AJOEnsEQSNy4W7eUn0PFCaQh4AdENGKTLXp24PSKeyZ+XHwg/f4EvNwls7848OLicQdHq7 cTaZDcHZqmC1+T4G76aiWY/pmi3RDksvUd9tbbrB1DnpV4xI+ihna2K0BK+uluTVJwlbNw JmXf3+vuDxydQko00W3xjOccMpp2RUyto0HQ+kzTGzb9xuo9aJYAoCS2vzERd1ge/vGbKO 5yJsFByLdx11cvollhDMJ0cjmS3CxuJL14NRC8Se+3gLOFHVZbgzbFNfUjWFxQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=singh-im.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=ikxk8kWW; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.07 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=singh-im.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=ikxk8kWW; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1AF142D613 X-Spam-Score: 0.07 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Sx+cDJGvyy0q On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:17 AM Leo Famulari wrote: > > Yeah, I agree that it's hard to learn about "what's cooking" when you > first arrive at the mailing lists. > > It's true that wikis tend to get out of date, but I think that it won't > be too bad for this use case. At least, it won't be worse than the > mailing lists, for newcomers who want to know about longer-term efforts > like the GNOME upgrade. May I suggest the Postgres project's model of maintaining a Todo list as a Wiki page, which shows the readers what they can contribute to, links to past discussions on the items, etc. This way even if the progress on a patch stops, someone, at some point in future can revive it based on the info in the Wiki. Of course, it'd be useless unless it is regularly updated. Also, it must be discoverable. Postgres, for example, links it as follows, and the folks, usually who specialize in community outreach, regularly update it [6]. This model has worked quite well for them, so I think it's a good model to try to emulate. Postgres home page [1] > Community [2] > Wiki [3] > Contributor Info > Developer Info [4] > Todo list [5]. [1]: https://www.postgresql.org/ [2]: https://www.postgresql.org/community/ [3]: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Main_Page [4]: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Development_information [5]: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo [6]: https://wiki.postgresql.org/index.php?title=Todo&action=history Best regards, -- Gurjeet Singh http://gurjeet.singh.im/