From: Fis Trivial <ybbs.daans@hotmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: "22629@debbugs.gnu.org" <22629@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:47:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BLUPR16MB050040E9004DB6DDFECFE43792660@BLUPR16MB0500.namprd16.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
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Hi, first of all, thanks for the improvement. It's really exciting know
progress in guix.
But I have a few questions around this change. Just curiosity. :)
> Hello Guix!
>
> Here is the “new” ‘guix pull’ that we discussed notably in this thread:
>
> https://bugs.gnu.org/22629
>
> The major difference is that instead of just building a bunch of modules
> and putting them under ~/.config/guix/latest, it now produces a
> standalone package (with bin/guix, share/info/guix.info, etc.) and puts
> it in a profile under ~/.config/guix/current. Quoth the manual:
>
> The result of running ‘guix pull’ is a “profile” available under
> ‘~/.config/guix/current’ containing the latest Guix. Thus, make sure to
> add it to the beginning of your search path so that you use the latest
> version, and similarly for the Info manual (*note Documentation::):
>
> export PATH="$HOME/.config/guix/current/bin:$PATH"
> export INFOPATH="$HOME/.config/guix/current/share/info:$INFOPATH"
>
This sounds like something could be done by guix itself, choosing the
right profile path by $HOME. Since guix has absolute control about this
piece of information?
> This ‘~/.config/guix/current’ profile works like any other profile
> created by ‘guix package’ (*note Invoking guix package::). That is, you
> can list generations, roll back to the previous generation—i.e., the
> previous Guix—and so on:
>
> $ guix package -p ~/.config/guix/current -l
> Generation 1 May 25 2018 10:06:41
> guix 221951a out /gnu/store/i4dfk7vw5k112s49jrhl6hwsfnh6wr7l-guix-221951af4
>
> Generation 2 May 27 2018 19:07:47
> + guix 2fbae00 out /gnu/store/44cv9hyvxg34xf5kblf5dz57hc52y4bm-guix-2fbae006f
> - guix 221951a out /gnu/store/i4dfk7vw5k112s49jrhl6hwsfnh6wr7l-guix-221951af4
>
> Generation 3 May 30 2018 16:11:39 (current)
> + guix a076f19 out /gnu/store/332czkicwwg6lc3x4aqbw5q2mq12s7fj-guix-a076f1990
> - guix 2fbae00 out /gnu/store/44cv9hyvxg34xf5kblf5dz57hc52y4bm-guix-2fbae006f
> $ guix package -p ~/.config/guix/current --roll-back
> switched from generation 3 to 2
>
>> There are two requirements it fulfills in terms of compatibility:
>
> 1. The modified ‘build-aux/build-self.scm’ still does the right thing
> when evaluated by an “old” Guix—that is, it produces a bunch of
> modules for use in ~/.config/guix/latest as before.
>
> 2. The modified ‘guix pull’ produces ~/.config/guix/current even when
> invoked on a commit of a past Guix. That is, it automatically
> produces a ‘guix’ command using the modules returned by the old
> ‘build-self.scm’.
>
>
> We could add ‘guix pull’ options for convenient: ‘--roll-back’,
> ‘--profile’, etc.
>
Nice~
> Going forward, additional “channels” could be presented as entries in
> the ~/.config/guix/current manifest.
>
> Caveats:
>
> 1. The ~/.config/guix/current profile really lives there. That is,
> unlike ~/.guix-profile, it’s not in /var/guix/profiles/per-user.
> That could be an issue for cluster setups where home directories
> are not scanned by the Guix GC. Cluster folks, please tell me!
What does that mean? We have a guix directory under $HOME/.config,
inside there's a symlink to /gnu/store/...-guix-<commit>. Does "really
lives there" mean the new profile is not a symlink but a concrete
directory or hard link?
>
> 2. The translated Info manual is not built. Julien: could you turn
> the big ‘xref_command’ in a script or something that we can more
> easily reuse in (guix self)?
>
> 3. C++ code is not built. I wonder which will come first: getting rid
> of the C++ code, or building it? :-)
>
In the future world, how do we update guix daemon? Is't still running
guix pull && guix package -u under root user?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-05 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-11 10:35 bug#22629: Towards a new 'guix pull' Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-22 7:57 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-02-24 18:21 ` Leo Famulari
2018-04-08 16:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-04-08 17:45 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 1/4] self: Produce a complete package with the 'guix' command Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 2/4] pull: Install the new Guix in a profile Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 3/4] self: Compute and use locale data Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 4/4] self: Build the Info manual Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:53 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Thompson, David
2018-06-01 12:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-03 13:08 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-03 20:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-04 19:12 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-31 18:00 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-04 11:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-05 11:45 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-06 13:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-06 15:54 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-06 20:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 18:58 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-01 12:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-05 16:47 ` Fis Trivial [this message]
2018-06-06 13:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-06 20:58 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-09 10:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-15 20:39 ` bug#28471: guix pull doesn't update the user manual Maxim Cournoyer
[not found] ` <handler.28471.D22629.152853885816765.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2018-06-13 21:46 ` bug#22629: bug#28471: closed (Re: bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix) Ludovic Courtès
2018-07-19 4:45 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Chris Marusich
2018-07-19 12:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:16 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 1/3] discovery: Add 'scheme-modules*' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 2/3] Add (guix describe) and use it to initialize '%package-search-path' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 3/3] DRAFT Add (guix channels) and use it in (guix scripts pull) Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 17:24 ` bug#22629: Channels! Pjotr Prins
2018-08-28 19:52 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 21:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 4:09 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 14:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 15:30 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 20:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 9:29 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-08-29 17:14 ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch (was: Channels!) Mark H Weaver
2018-08-29 18:26 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30 5:57 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-30 6:42 ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch Mark H Weaver
2018-08-30 10:10 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-30 12:18 ` bug#22629: “Stable” branch Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 14:10 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-08-30 22:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 9:39 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-31 9:58 ` bug#26608: " Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 10:33 ` bug#32022: " Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-31 13:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 11:24 ` bug#26608: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-08-31 11:45 ` bug#32022: " Ricardo Wurmus
2018-09-03 14:10 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-09-03 19:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-04 8:02 ` bug#26608: " Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-09-04 12:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-03 20:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-08-20 11:09 ` bug#26608: " zimoun
2018-08-30 14:46 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 21:02 ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:29 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:31 ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 1/3] discovery: Add 'scheme-modules*' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:31 ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 2/3] Add (guix describe) and use it to initialize '%package-search-path' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 12:21 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-31 13:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 14:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30 21:31 ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 3/3] Add (guix channels) and use it in (guix scripts pull) Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-02 15:11 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
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