From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:14:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20191009065352.GU8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <1c9dc59c-0594-6921-73e8-b173e558b5c3@vapaa.xyz> <20191010023714.GK20430@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1iIeA5-0005Qm-6b for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:31:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <321942@gmail.com>) id 1iIeA4-0005KV-31 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:31:45 -0400 Resent-To: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org Resent-Message-ID: <5zkwz9br.fsf@invalid> In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> It is not harmful if Guix remains free software, how it can be? It is only harmful for Guix=2E It was not my decision, it is theirs=2E On October 10, 2019 11:39:42 AM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail=2Ecom= > wrote: >Jean Louis wrote: >> * Alexander Vdolainen [2019-10-09 23:13]: >> - and then within that group there is now a hostile takeover group of >people starting with Ludovic Court=C3=A8s and his "fellows" where none of >them could answer my email to provide me with the facts about their >statement=2E They are behaving against established implicit and explicit >GNU guidelines, and so far nobody from FSF is enforcing any policy >against them=2E They are danger to GNU project=2E >> >> My solution would be radical and simple: ask them to refrain damaging >GNU project, or fork their software, and expell them from GNU project=2E >> >> AS SIMPLE AS THAT=2E > >Wow! Ease off a bit! > >You might not noticed that, but today Guix is the most vivid part of >GNU=2E And I could not image an action, that might cause more damage to >GNU project, than urging Guix lead developers to leave=2E Even if you >believe that forking software over political discord is good thing to >do (despite it does not align well with the rest of your message), by >all means, you would not able to outcompete them, so it would simply >ended in Guix out of GNU=2E So it even more harmful than urging RMS to >leave=2E After all, RMS is mortal and, alas, will leave us and GNU >sooner or later, while Guix is not necessary=2E