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At the very least those changes we thought were important enough to add th= em to the news entries=2E > - what is the process? > - how to decide? Accept or reject? I think the process could allow for some time to discuss various options a= nd arrive at a concensus=2E The final implementation might be different fro= m the initial idea=2E I suppose this is where we have to look at other project's processes :) > - who decide? > - etc=2E > > >Cheers, >simon >