From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jean Louis Subject: Re: Proposal to remove the off-topic, not free software related thoughtcrime accusations from the Guix project pages on GNU.ORG websitew Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 21:02:48 +0000 Message-ID: <8B51F611-7A9B-490C-BB49-632D402D2247@gnu.support> References: <20191009065352.GU8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <1c9dc59c-0594-6921-73e8-b173e558b5c3@vapaa.xyz> <20191010023714.GK20430@protected.rcdrun.com> <5zkw22sb.321942@gmail.com> <32731221-C09D-4E6B-8642-1600A5D56E64@gnu.support> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIfaW-0006df-FR for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:03:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIfaU-0000jD-Sx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:03:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org On October 10, 2019 8:29:06 PM UTC, Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail=2Ecom>= wrote: >Jean Louis wrote: >> How are you? > >Ehm=2E=2E=2E Fine=2E What is the occasion to ask? We are then from different cultures simply=2E At my side it is always used= similarly as hand shaking=2E >> I [] see absolutely no problem there=2E > >I=E2=80=99m afraid, Dr=2E Stallman would see=2E My protest is not to align all my thoughts with Dr=2E Stallman, my protest= is that defamation and harassment of RMS is taking place on Guix=2EGNU=2Eo= rg website=2E It is the code of good conduct of Guix itself where they promised harass-f= ree space with respect to other people's opinions=2E See: https://git=2Esav= annah=2Egnu=2Eorg/cgit/guix=2Egit/tree/CODE-OF-CONDUCT Writing policies while abusing them themselves is hypocrisy and this time = it is bad enough that caused international online protests=2E >> What is point in backstabbing of RMS? I asked and never got answers >but FUD=2E > >To get rid of him, of course=2E Why to ask for obvious answer? Well I don't see it that way=2E I see it as a hostile fact-less thought po= lice punishing and degrading GNU, Guix, FSF and RMS for the thought crime= =2E See the book 1984 >Many of your letters contain a footer with a call for lead developers >of Guix, Guile and GnuPG to leave GNU=2E=20 Exactly=2E That is my opinion=2E If myself cannot agree with my own commun= ity's published coffee of conduct and the founder and if I am to abuse the= platform given to me by founder and his work to abuse his image and defame= him, then I would never do that, I would step down=2E Reason that they don't have guts is all the comfort they got from FSF and = GNU which is, was and is being caused by RMS=2E Comfort like this https://guix=2Egnu=2Eorg/blog/2018/gnu-guix-receives-don= ation-from-the-handshake-project/ is hard to resist to get their things str= aight=2E >> They have no respect for RMS=2E > >I hope, that you have, though=2E And thus will stop to tear down the >project he founded=2E I have never protested against the GNU project as in itself it cannot caus= e actions=2E My protest is not against Ludovic Court=C3=A8s's opinion neith= er their free speech, despite all of their efforts to silence every protest= ors' voice=2E See their logs for evidences of the plot=2E My protest is against defamation of founder of the GNU project and on the = GNU project's domain! If Ludovic Court=C3=A8s would publish it on his website I could probably c= omment on his own website=2E But he did not=2E By the way I did not find on= e mention of Dr=2E Stallman on his pages=2E Think about that and proper cre= diting=2E Ludovic Court=C3=A8s published it on Guix website hosted on GNU domain=2E = I am objecting to that=2E And I am not alone, there are already hundreds su= pporting comments from all over the world, podcast and defenses, I am not a= lone thinker and please don't turn my words to something what I have not st= ated=2E Same strategy was used to defame Stallman=2E And same was used by L= udovic Court=C3=A8s on their disrespectful statement=2E Jean=20