From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxIKt-0003SJ-Mc for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxIKs-0004Dy-DJ for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:07 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41020) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxIKo-0004Aa-5j for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fxIKo-00034q-1d for guix-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:02 -0400 Subject: [bug#30991] [PATCH v2 2/3] services: Add modem-manager-service-type. Resent-Message-ID: From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) References: <20180329222140.21590-1-dannym@scratchpost.org> <20180329222140.21590-3-dannym@scratchpost.org> <87tvswjk8h.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0ttbdog.fsf@gnu.org> <20180904214117.6aff8c89@scratchpost.org> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:53:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20180904214117.6aff8c89@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Tue, 4 Sep 2018 21:41:17 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhwx7znk.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+kyle=kyleam.com@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" To: Danny Milosavljevic Cc: 30991@debbugs.gnu.org Hello Danny, Danny Milosavljevic skribis: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 15:22:07 +0200 > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) wrote: > >> I think the only question was about patch 3/3, which adds ModemManager >> to =E2=80=98%desktop-services=E2=80=99. I=E2=80=99m in favor of droppin= g patch 3/3, but >> regardless patches 1/3 (the variant that moves >> =E2=80=98static-networking-service-type=E2=80=99 to (gnu services base),= as we >> discussed) and 2/3 can definitely go in! > > It already is in master. I guess I left the bug report open so far - pro= bably > because of the %desktop-services . Oh, silly me. > I still want to underline that there should be a way for a regular user > to bootstrap from the GuixSD image to a "guix pull"-able system using > his existing internet connection - otherwise the first impression is bad. > > This means that the GuixSD image needs to have at least pppd, and > maybe modem-manager too (maybe not). I agree in principle, though, as I wrote, I think we need to strike a balance between popularity and overhead, so to speak. ModemManager currently takes quite a bit of extra space, which is why I=E2=80=99m reluct= ant. Do you think this can be optimized? Or would pppd enough be convenient? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.