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hi.
I was looking at available gtk based desktops. It appears xfce is up to date where as gnome is not. is there a reason for this?

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Re: DE

[Timothy Sample]

Hi guixest,

guixest <guixest@protonmail.com> writes:

> hi.
> I was looking at available gtk based desktops. It appears xfce is up to date where as gnome
> is not. is there a reason for this?

Yes and no.  As I understand it, upgrading GNOME often means upgrading
GTK and GLib, which have a lot of dependants.  We batch those kinds of
upgrades because the build farm needs time to catch up, and we need to
test the resulting package set.  Usually this happens a couple times a
year, but the last batch took closer to a whole year to get through. (A
million thanks to everyone who worked so hard to get through it!)

Beyond that, having helped test two GNOME upgrades, I can say that there
are enough issues that it is a bit of a “project”.  It’s not so simple
as just bumping the versions and building the packages.

That being said, I am hopeful that we will eventually be able to catch
up to upstream.  We have some code for version 3.32, which is the
next-to-latest version.  If someone (me if I can find the time) gets it
cleaned up quick enough, it will be part of the next batch upgrade.
BTW, we always appreciate help with testing if you’re up for it.  :)


-- Tim

Re: DE

[guixest]

thanks.

I understand the process you explained. Btw, when is the next batch coming?


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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:17 AM, Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com> wrote:

> Hi guixest,
>
> guixest guixest@protonmail.com writes:
>
> > hi.
> > I was looking at available gtk based desktops. It appears xfce is up to date where as gnome
> > is not. is there a reason for this?
>
> Yes and no. As I understand it, upgrading GNOME often means upgrading
> GTK and GLib, which have a lot of dependants. We batch those kinds of
> upgrades because the build farm needs time to catch up, and we need to
> test the resulting package set. Usually this happens a couple times a
> year, but the last batch took closer to a whole year to get through. (A
> million thanks to everyone who worked so hard to get through it!)
>
> Beyond that, having helped test two GNOME upgrades, I can say that there
> are enough issues that it is a bit of a “project”. It’s not so simple
> as just bumping the versions and building the packages.
>
> That being said, I am hopeful that we will eventually be able to catch
> up to upstream. We have some code for version 3.32, which is the
> next-to-latest version. If someone (me if I can find the time) gets it
> cleaned up quick enough, it will be part of the next batch upgrade.
> BTW, we always appreciate help with testing if you’re up for it. :)
>
> -- Tim

Re: DE

[guixest]

thanks.

I understand the process you explained. Btw, when is the next batch coming?


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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:17 AM, Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com> wrote:

> Hi guixest,
>
> guixest guixest@protonmail.com writes:
>
> > hi.
> > I was looking at available gtk based desktops. It appears xfce is up to date where as gnome
> > is not. is there a reason for this?
>
> Yes and no. As I understand it, upgrading GNOME often means upgrading
> GTK and GLib, which have a lot of dependants. We batch those kinds of
> upgrades because the build farm needs time to catch up, and we need to
> test the resulting package set. Usually this happens a couple times a
> year, but the last batch took closer to a whole year to get through. (A
> million thanks to everyone who worked so hard to get through it!)
>
> Beyond that, having helped test two GNOME upgrades, I can say that there
> are enough issues that it is a bit of a “project”. It’s not so simple
> as just bumping the versions and building the packages.
>
> That being said, I am hopeful that we will eventually be able to catch
> up to upstream. We have some code for version 3.32, which is the
> next-to-latest version. If someone (me if I can find the time) gets it
> cleaned up quick enough, it will be part of the next batch upgrade.
> BTW, we always appreciate help with testing if you’re up for it. :)
>
> -- Tim

Re: DE

[Timothy Sample]

Hello,

guixest <guixest@protonmail.com> writes:

> I understand the process you explained. Btw, when is the next batch coming?

Marius suggested that we start working on it soon and try to finish it
in December:

    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-10/msg00108.html


-- Tim