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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Potential security weakness in Guix services
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 22:26:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zh0gzy52.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56adb5efa894304c27beba99b07e2f8cfd8ee7cb.camel@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Fri, 05 Feb 2021 13:20:40 +0100")

Hi,

Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> skribis:

> On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 10:57 +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Hi Maxime,
>
>> 
>> > I don't know how I should implement this properly in Guile, though.
>> > In C, I would use loop using openat with O_NOFOLLOW, in combination
>> > with stat, but Guile doesn't have openat or O_NOFOLLOW.
>> 
>> In this case we need a solution without openat for now.  Perhaps simply
>> changing ‘mkdir-p/perms’ to ‘lstat’ components as it goes?
>
> A compromised service could create a component as a regular file or
> directory, and quickly replace it with a symlink after the activation
> gexp checks the component wasn't a symlink but before the chown or
> chmod.

I understand the TOCTTOU race.  However, activation code runs in two
situations: when booting the system (before shepherd takes over), and
upon ‘guix system reconfigure’ completion.

When booting the system, there’s just no process out there to take
advantage of the race condition.

In the second case, presumably all the file name components already
exist.

Does that make sense?

>> > [...]
>> > I'll look into writing a concrete proposal for *at in guile.
>> > I'll post a link to the guile mailing list message when it has
>> > been composed and sent.
>
> Link: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-guile/2021-02/msg00002.html

Thanks!

Ludo’.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-06 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-28 21:53 Potential security weakness in Guix services Leo Famulari
2021-01-29 13:33 ` Maxime Devos
2021-01-29 15:25   ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-01 15:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-01 15:47   ` Julien Lepiller
2021-02-01 16:19     ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-02 13:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-02 13:38         ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-02 15:30           ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-05  9:57           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-05 12:20             ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-05 14:16               ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-06 21:28                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-06 22:01                   ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-10 20:45                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-06 21:26               ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2021-02-14 12:29                 ` TOCTTOU race (was: Potential security weakness in Guix services) Maxime Devos
2021-02-14 17:19                   ` Bengt Richter
2021-02-18 17:54                   ` TOCTTOU race Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-19 18:01                     ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-22  8:54                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-22 19:13                         ` Maxime Devos
2021-02-23 15:30                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-27  7:41                             ` Maxime Devos
2021-03-10 10:07                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-02-10 20:54             ` Potential security weakness in Guix services Christopher Lemmer Webber

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