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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, guix-maintainers@gnu.org, Morgan Lemmer-Webber Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1646102409; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=sKB95b5OyAvzKfNKqYbeallhFb/WRn0ZXfP42wpNh8o=; b=VtL5nxkc7GqDeq5ztrYL7ZVJc25nKblhwrOPBxjS4jiR2Pj63ev//3EEPEHSqBvkGTPAI5 nUKqmTMHiOV+exL8Lwqjxhtqlf6XYtajtvyBVIqd/ImbO77Fcwq9mdH5iZpJFiZPjUw6Gu X52Lk6sOlwwn0XCCM5YFckhZ4F/HLqpviisz85HGdAnHXp4fwq1yWWJn9/pg8OUjqcyAxF eQvOfn0EexmNmjV6TSCoZrH4eUXlHWfn3YB5PP9/FY+60H/A4/a8WFm3t8rbweFBUgHDao V7uBDOoUriz2qwhBKpMBTzcPzdO6TPHia7rT9CQI18CN7YjCLXqgwLKhwSw7dA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1646102409; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XclBQxI3xSkDKAGdxspNd25OP1eI4JY71F7J52qp42hDBSUAp1QYQzVA0m4q7IiXAd7+3q NbfYWQxWMfYr4Cudrj0Zl+L6YTp0zKAvynWT7LFTiHV0O4n3BAKOpwoK57qy8m7B/Oc2vM fdQKz7gZTbrChHCAWoxu74bPzkDPM4kHr24jbhXxjMAFrBwyR8LEu6HslNC2mD9nTUoR2A MOR4rQDWy0LZkqnmpDT0I/xrz/dIUPPEtKoKFxcNsNE8/7tR66TR55WpLdNwI8gAjwGsvo +Zso4LrkoM+AG70VC3y7fttHDT7FQJYYYu2EfUWsWkkVqAg34KFr//Mo1Wutsw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=YcIWdHSI; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 5.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=YcIWdHSI; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 917F525EFE X-Spam-Score: 5.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: qjFkJzh+sxjj Hi, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Taylan, > > You have been asked repeatedly to stop and yet, you just reiterated what > we know has already proven to be hurtful. That=E2=80=99s enough. I agree. Let's put an end to this and related threads that don't further our project in any positive way. The Guix maintainers will meet tomorrow and discuss what can be done to avoid such situation in the future. Taylan, until our decision is made, I'd like to ask you to cease any discussion on this topic in any of the Guix communication spaces. If there's some change you'd like to propose to the CoC, please consult with upstream, and do it respectfully (even if/when they refuse). I offer my apologies to everyone for not reacting earlier. Sincerely, Maxim