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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1654724306; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=fQuGKpgTyy6H8eB8aKO2HA1j6oEG/8K4tPj6LdcVZFw=; b=ZOnjNd/rovCMMsH0MYSHJRaR52Zb1TIFUuvk4+Lvems7I2Q+UhDwm+cQ/UMUOSokmn9u+w OnTXxHCuc8zu99eRp76ONGOvAG6oL0+Y907jfIVGKMmcy3jIRG974MpiM4ZSTnVuFsURLH KzQYg2BCeACHCEIZ4lIQBS7Kp2ecTdhHCBpo5bOKpJ6cuQF1o05OIPtqp03UKKJRljqdI2 0ZOJzW6UBGjhz72O7VonZ4Fwg4dNv+YHyeDSf+J518xDav39yn2K3IXp/WFqodv+mnoXvI 8UWHjDYNJUg+DqSNscoMi1hf2gVQNZjLT6qaa3AttCoiJFQgL/f/rKH3yVJOLw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1654724306; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=S3QVmjl2RjPVvQtDfybw6dIx8MoF4lzr5jE8HwOhpF1qgvpoGv8RODqfQDx7Q5cf7Hq5Zu 29p7NwNmuWdZBd2BP7b9hN25btQ09z+Tp7TzTf++f44/EHCLEIDQrU2dkwY6KmYoG2fOew 3D1p4ll9WhQdYzqTdO3Yv6wx/It0uFXk0SugRTrYW45ZW6rbktVQ0BIyFMsbGurRU9Y6oz rpsSsBMgjV8Df6fmffT0pD175AxY9DX2vEWeeVdl8I/j8Zp9PmpbdQirtwH5QmxqU5Eg1N D1J/HMwjny0wsXxfQlNkOSxWizBgp/lwHpzusqvGIgVcBzGp9pjP+//q8iD2nA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b="C0ed/tFP"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.50 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b="C0ed/tFP"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 455C333B5 X-Spam-Score: -9.50 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: s0KsDzKGCHYC Hi! kiasoc5@disroot.org skribis: > I know that rolling release distros don't have to have the latest package= s but this is not the best representation of Guix, especially when our frie= nd NixOS claims they have the largest and most updated package collection [= https://nixos.org/blog/announcements.html#nixos-22.05]. Guix is *potentially* even more up-to-date than NixOS thanks to =E2=80=98--with-latest=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98--with-branch=E2=80=99! \o/ https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Package-Transformation-Opt= ions.html Seriously though, we could take better advantage of the tooling that we have: =E2=80=98guix refresh=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98guix graph=E2=80=99, and the= corresponding APIs. With that, we can write code that automatically tries out package updates and prepares patches, for instance. We could even largely automate =E2=80=9Cup= date trains=E2=80=9D (what we=E2=80=99re doing with master/staging/core-updates). Ideas for a motivated hacker! Ludo=E2=80=99.