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Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:24:37 -0500 (EST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment_Lassieur?= To: Simon Tournier Cc: Maxim Cournoyer , Kyle Meyer , Ricardo Wurmus , Josselin Poiret , Hartmut Goebel , Suhail , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Guix Days: Patch flow discussion In-Reply-To: <8734tt98ra.fsf@gmail.com> (Simon Tournier's message of "Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:06:49 +0100") References: <87plx8fl2a.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> <87bk8s58p1.fsf@elephly.net> <87y1bv1xy0.fsf@kyleam.com> <87il2vvtw5.fsf@gmail.com> <87mss3kpxk.fsf@gmail.com> <87mss29cjh.fsf@lassieur.org> <8734tt98ra.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 18:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87zfw17i99.fsf@lassieur.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.24; envelope-from=clement@lassieur.org; helo=wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.80 X-Spam-Score: -6.80 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B252B98FC X-TUID: LjkuDO3OkTzQ On Thu, Feb 15 2024, Simon Tournier wrote: > Hi Cl=C3=A9ment, > > On jeu., 15 f=C3=A9vr. 2024 at 12:45, Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur wrote: > >>>> 'b4 shazam' is probably the most trouble-free way to apply patches; >>> >>> I agree*! >> >> I don't agree (both Gwene + Gnus or Emacs Debbugs work perfectly too and >> allow to apply a range of n patches at once) but I don't think there is >> a need for competition here, it's good that we have several tools. > > Yes for sure it is good to have several tools. And the ones you like. :-) > > No one is advocating to make =E2=80=99b4 shazam=E2=80=99 THE only one too= l. > > Instead, I agree with Maxim that exposing Message-ID and relying on =E2= =80=99b4 > shazam=E2=80=99 is the most trouble-free and config-less way to apply pat= ches. I know ;) >>> What appears to me =E2=80=9Cdifficult=E2=80=9D is that= most of the >>> tools as Email client are poorly supporting Message-ID. >>> >>> For instance, debbugs.el (Gnus). To my knowledge, there is not easy way >>> to get the Message-ID when reading an article (bug/patch) from Debbugs. >>> There is other means for applying patches. But still each time appears >>> to me weird. :-) >> >> It's >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> (with-current-buffer gnus-original-article-buffer >> (message-fetch-field "Message-ID")) >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > [...] > >> May I add too, that you can add "Message-ID" in gnus-visible-headers. > > And what about Summary buffer? You add '%M' in gnus-summary-line-format. > Well, it makes my point, no? :-) No, it doesn't :-) > For sure the Message-ID is there and for sure it is possible to extract > it. However, it appears to me weird that it is not built-in. I mean > Message-ID is one of the heart of Emails, and Debbugs is just Emails, > but debbugs.el does not provide a built-in access to it. Yes it does provide a built-in access, as I showed you. Just search for "Message-id" in `C-h v gnus-summary-line-format`. Cheers, Cl=C3=A9ment