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Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur writes: > On Wed, Feb 21 2024, Ian Eure wrote: > >> Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur writes: >> >>> On Wed, Feb 21 2024, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: >>>> Am Dienstag, dem 20.02.2024 um 18:18 -0800 schrieb Ian Eure: >>>>> Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur writes: >>>>> > > Are you saying you want a process like: >>>>> > > > > 1a. Get wasm toolchain stuff merged. >>>>> > > 1b. Get Librewolf merged without WASM sandboxing. >>>>> > > 2. Update icecat, torbrowser, mullvad, and librewolf to=20 >>>>> > > > > use > > >>>>> WASM sandboxing. >>>>> > > Excatly.=C2=A0 1b can be done after 1a, or before 1a. >>>>> > Is there a technical reason why landing WASM sandboxing=20 >>>>> > support for all >>>>> browsers in the same patch is desirable?=C2=A0 I can intuit none,=20 >>>>> and as I=E2=80=99m >>>>> disinclined to either roll back portions of my existing=20 >>>>> patchset, or work >>>>> on other browsers, the proposal is disagreeable. >>>> I think this ordering is w.r.t. *patch sets*, not patches. I=20 >>>> wouldn't >>>> suggest dropping four packages into one patch. >>> >>> Indeed I've never said it should be done in one patch. I said=20 >>> one-shot >>> as in =E2=80=98symmetrical=E2=80=99: the work required to add Wasm to o= ur=20 >>> browsers >>> should be more or less the same for all browsers, and code=20 >>> duplication >>> should be avoided. >>> >> >> Forgive me for my imprecision, and thank you for the >> explanation. Unfortunately, the distinction makes little=20 >> difference to me, as >> it still would require me to do work I=E2=80=99m unwilling to do. My=20 >> unwillingness >> has less to do with the amount of work than its scope: My goal=20 >> is to get >> LibreWolf into Guix, and I simply have no desire or motivation=20 >> to work on >> other browsers. > > Firefox based browsers are closely related. Sounds impossible=20 > to me to > really do good work on one of them without touching the other=20 > ones. > >> I think the best course of action is to reduce scope by=20 >> removing the WASM >> component of this patch series entirely. I=E2=80=99d send a new patch=20 >> series without >> the WASM toolchain packages, and with WASM sandboxing disabled=20 >> in the >> LibreWolf package. The official LibreWolf binaries don=E2=80=99t=20 >> appear to have this >> enabled, so no hardening would be sacrified vs. LibreWolf=20 >> installed any other >> way. And since I=E2=80=99m not the original author of the WASM=20 >> packages, and not >> well-positioned to address problems with them, omitting them=20 >> seems likely to >> circumvent difficulties in the review process and support of=20 >> those. >> >> What do you think? > > Sounds good. And we can add WASM later.