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In between your two generations there was an upgrade in Emacs from 29.3 to 29.4. Unlike other upgrades this was done as a graft on emacs-minimal, not a direct version bump. I've noticed an uptick on IRC of other complaints about odd Emacs breakages recently. In at least one case the problem was solved by disabling grafts. Perhaps there is some odd graft related breakage going on. (An Emacs bug introduced in 29.3->29.4 is unlikely to be the culprit as the changelog alleges org-mode was the only change). This is just a hunch however. I'm not sure of the best way to test this since disabling grafts will also disable the 29.4 upgrade entirely, but perhaps creating your profile with --no-grafts (including Emacs packages) will help you narrow it down. Do note that disabling grafts will remove many security fixes from the profile. Best not to use it long term. CC'ing a couple people involved in the 29.4 upgrade so they are aware of my pet theory. I don't have a smoking gun. Like I said, it's just a hunch. Thanks for your work! :) --=20 Take it easy, Richard Sent Making my computer weirder one commit at a time.