From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: grammar usage Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:58:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87y3w4xawc.fsf@elephly.net> References: <87fuivxukg.fsf@lassieur.org> <20170305145026.zgoayn46kvpz5ksy@abyayala> <20170307214959.16038114@scratchpost.org> <87r3284x8s.fsf@lassieur.org> <87h92t1qts.fsf@gnu.org> <20170316204527.lnkgc2vot4uqk633@abyayala> <20170317053620.GA16076@jocasta.intra> <20170317110804.fxe6s2dpiw4pvwu5@abyayala> <20170317102809.GA26719@jocasta.intra> <87o9x0mare.fsf@igalia.com> <20170317111236.GA27220@jocasta.intra> <87k27om9bj.fsf@igalia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cosPu-0004ko-QC for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:59:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cosPp-0008Gt-Qu for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:59:42 -0400 Received: from sender-of-o51.zoho.com ([135.84.80.216]:21093) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cosPp-0008GH-J7 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:59:37 -0400 In-reply-to: <87k27om9bj.fsf@igalia.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Andy Wingo Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Andy Wingo writes: […] > I understand you feel this way, however to others the effect is > important. To trans and non-binary people, being at the receiving end > of a stream of misgenderings (intentional or not) is a constant > irritation, reminding them that they are not welcome in that part of the > world. We want Guix to be welcoming to everyone, so we should be > attentive to hints about what pronoun people would like others to use > when referring to them. > >> Why is it only advocacy of *my* opinion which is unwelcome whereas >> that of others is perfectly acceptable? I feel that I am being >> victimised here. > > To create a welcoming environment for more people and especially people > who are marginalized, we must make some behaviors unwelcome. In this > case, advocating this opinion of what is correct English contributes to > the marginalization of trans and non-binary people, and for that reason > I think it is appropriate for the Guix project to discourage this > behavior in its spaces. Thank you, Andy. I agree with everything you wrote, in particular how this relates to our goal of creating a welcoming environment, which is a main task for maintainers. -- Ricardo GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC https://elephly.net