Hi there, I've enabled '--gc-keep-outputs=yes' a while back (together with the default '--gc-keep-derivations=yes'), and I've noticed that my store keeps consuming more and more disk space after each upgrade. From the manual "(guix) Invoking guix-daemon)": > When both are set to “yes”, the effect is > to keep all the build prerequisites (the sources, compiler, > libraries, and other build-time tools) of live objects in the > store, regardless of whether these prerequisites are reachable from > a GC root. This is convenient for developers since it saves > rebuilds or downloads. Does this mean that once a package has been marked as "live", it won't ever be deleted? For instance, I have 2 ghc-pandoc packages, both of them "live": --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- /gnu/store/lvydshzl7pkdmvv2sfjgfvvc70vsyich-ghc-pandoc-2.2.1 Size : 191.5M (200775752 bytes) Registration time : 2018-09-03 09:56:33 Derivers : 1 References : 193 Referrers : 14 Requisites : 264 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- /gnu/store/1cks86vflnc60xjvdad3fp03hbfy9688-ghc-pandoc-2.2.1 Size : 191.5M (200775752 bytes) Registration time : 2018-09-03 09:55:40 Derivers : 1 References : 193 Referrers : 1 Requisites : 264 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The last one has only one referrer: itself. The deriver is --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- /gnu/store/qs5c2ibj15ym6lxf72vz7ds0h96k1vv5-ghc-pandoc-2.2.1.drv Size : 6.3k (6464 bytes) Registration time : 2018-09-03 09:49:28 Derivers : 0 References : 74 Referrers : 1 Requisites : 1168 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Notice it has a referrer, which is --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- /gnu/store/5gp70m5jwyi4ryl8i7pcj3c52g3pl4hb-ghc-pandoc-2.2.1.drv Size : 26.3k (26936 bytes) Registration time : 2018-09-03 09:49:56 Derivers : 0 References : 317 Referrers : 0 Requisites : 1604 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- that is, the deriver of the first ghc-pandoc package! As I understand it, there is a dependency cycle between the derivers and the packages. Is this to be expected? Is there a way to find which GC root causes the item to be live? -- Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/