From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>, help-guix@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to present Guix to a wider audience
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:07:46 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2u98tv1.fsf@yucca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874kwyp9hi.fsf@ambrevar.xyz>
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On 2020-01-14, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
> I just wrote a short draft which hopefully should explain in layman
> terms why Guix matters.
Thanks, it's a nice read!
> * Open source is not enough
>
> We might be tempted to think that free open source software gives us
> transparency about what's in the application. While the compiled application we
...
> In practice this means that it's almost always impossible to /reproduce/ the
> exact same compiled application that is offered for download.
I object a bit to "almost always impossible" :P
There are a number of projects that have achieved reproducibility for a
majority of the distributed software, including small to large-sized
distributions. Even a few small projects that manage 100%
reproducibility.
How about "often difficult" instead?
> * Trust all the way
>
> To sum up, we need the following properties in order to be able to trust
> computer software:
...
> - Separate multi-user application collections: on a multi-user system, every
> user can install their favourite applications independently. Applications
> don't "pollute" the other user sessions.
I wonder if most people even undertsand the concept of a multi-user
system all that well? might be worth leaving out to keep the talking
points short...
> * Can everyone use Guix?
...
> More work needs to be done in terms of accessibility and easy of use so that the
> less technically-minded among us can also enjoy Guix some day. Then, hopefully,
> we will find Guix preinstalled on computers, ready for everyone to use.
"easy of use" -> "ease of use"
live well,
vagrant
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-02 10:03 How to present Guix to a wider audience Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-02 18:18 ` zimoun
2020-01-08 15:33 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-08 16:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-08 20:18 ` zimoun
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2020-01-10 9:52 ` wisdomlight--- via
2020-01-10 12:19 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-02 19:20 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-08 15:26 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 11:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:58 ` Jack Hill
2020-01-14 17:00 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 21:01 ` Jack Hill
2020-01-14 23:44 ` Dimakakos Dimos
2020-01-15 0:07 ` Vagrant Cascadian [this message]
2020-01-15 8:52 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 0:20 ` Josh
2020-01-15 8:57 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 5:59 ` Arun Isaac
2020-01-15 8:53 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 8:59 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 17:44 ` sirgazil
2020-01-19 11:03 ` Todor Kondić
2020-01-19 15:57 ` wisdomlight
2020-01-21 21:49 ` ndre
2020-01-22 11:00 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 17:35 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-23 14:44 ` Kelsang Sherab
2020-01-23 21:25 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-11 7:45 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-11 17:38 ` Josh Marshall
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