From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id ANIWNWpgxWCXTwEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 03:33:30 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id lpfBMGpgxWBvaQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 01:33:30 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BC43CD9D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 03:33:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:54534 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsF0D-0003mU-BI for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:33:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsF04-0003mL-GO for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:33:20 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:40890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsF02-0004b0-G5 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:33:20 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lsEzk-0001zy-MR; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:33:00 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver To: Leo Prikler , Tobias Geerinckx-Rice , Bone Baboon Subject: Re: Telemetry on by default kitty In-Reply-To: <83e3ea6de4daa14a81c826d9200941719abe2f82.camel@student.tugraz.at> References: <87fsxm7s69.fsf@disroot.org> <87eed695yb.fsf@nckx> <87czsq7oyl.fsf@disroot.org> <87bl8a92r4.fsf@nckx> <83e3ea6de4daa14a81c826d9200941719abe2f82.camel@student.tugraz.at> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:32:02 -0400 Message-ID: <87y2be8s7m.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1623548010; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=LX//rzfF9ehsxKUkEtSzSo4FNlxk6uzA0PJoonJL1wA=; b=Dws1VrkeiMd9m2M6SzEKHgUPbl7QqQNJFc2deAOU6dwjBGMeONCPW6/j1y1ntPFACiygrB Mwon/xjnAUZZgnlKHn4tLKb8OckF9n/0asdI/Qw75ye/XbW7ZOiYGlcC5fqw3itWoNFp/j vktxFE1M53Yw1TrJreyFMXHLbG6FxE9/0lup6UFwBPAtOBVLU/Ku4RQHoYqZ2O85Hpu+Wa V2vvxJ7hRkU0CXiP0eiTWIM7sA5loCTHCT+nWxEY45btQ3MKNW7NoNtl7DtwspEFZOUgNe i9+aoAHLIKzwHgzeg6M315kolVTu8PaQzyoMp9LrJ7tmhXDuJuN5naYanyk6XA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1623548010; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Jmekqv+Zv48eh6Ea4wC7lKvTF8IA02eRxZbiNneEudkTlqY1y4eIYJaPF4cEFV0hFeVkpd 266FQGQIiW+b9xjPItwwvqd62qm50pfrDOuWa/6luZYbHk4dR5IYlCgzZMUartwDrMImxU wAGOk+Kq4UlymAeGGDbkQszU+Sgx8ym2LIWPT+kTabWeSLl+rrnuIllMsXfb2UF9flPZiZ 3c87zzCKSGO+mpiPMj1RaHkY5YRcAY5lFThCPGOs+4zq+L7MhAIoLAGeS9v69p49Yxyyx3 9iCcc8plWZYJFNb7VvTl7E+QHGd26F/gwCBD0+Go9UapUFURoSMU1C9XiRj69w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.93 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5BC43CD9D X-Spam-Score: -0.93 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: UdJ5tzPHspYW Hi Leo, Leo Prikler writes: > If I read terminals.scm, we already disable the telemetry in kitty: > >> (invoke "python3" "setup.py" "linux-package" >> ;; Do not phone home. >> "--update-check-interval=0" Indeed, it appears that Nicolas Goaziou addressed this issue last December in commit 153b279e7baf1b23d9bb895ea2064faac0ed27c1. > @Bone: Did you notice any other telemetry during your further code > review (or are you still in the process of reviewing the code)? If > not, please try to cross-check Guix sources to see whether we already > disable telemetry, so as to not cause unwarranted panic :) I think that we should welcome reports like this one, even if the reporter doesn't have the time/energy/skills to first investigate on their own. It would be unfortunate if we failed to find out about spyware in Guix because those who knew about it had insufficient confidence to file a bug report. I, for one, appreciate that Bone Baboon brought this to our attention. Regards, Mark -- Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about .