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I know Marius has spent time looking at= it and > fixing build failures caused by the upgrade. Can we do it? > > =E2=80=A2 Reduced binary seeds=E2=80=94anything new? My understanding = is that the > reduced binary seed bootstrap now works on ARM, but that we were > waiting on a Mes release to merge those bits. Janneke, Danny? Sadly, we are not there yet. The gcc/glibc build is still not done. The full source bootstrap is "almost ready" and is waiting for a GNU Mes release. It was wating for an M2-Planet release but that happened last week! I'm not sure about a time frame here though. A week, hmm? > =E2=80=A2 Simplified package inputs=E2=80=94I=E2=80=99ll keep working o= n that, and most of the > work can be done without a world rebuild, so it=E2=80=99s not a block= er IMO. I haven't really caught-up here and am still wondering here about things like ("foo-for-build" ,foo) ("patch-bar" ,(search-patch ...)) but that's prolly addressed. I'll look into this. 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