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(was Re: Reducing "You found a bug" reports) In-Reply-To: <87wmjjd0ki.fsf@gmail.com> (Simon Tournier's message of "Tue, 10 Sep 2024 16:51:09 +0200") References: <87frtmu7ov.fsf@meson> <87wmjjd0ki.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 20:20:37 -0400 Message-ID: <87y13z6nxm.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f43; envelope-from=suhailsingh247@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf43.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.81 X-Spam-Score: -6.81 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AE6246F737 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: /acv+jsjNdEB Simon Tournier writes: > IMHO, the next actions are: > > a) Replace this message: > > (message (format #f "You found a bug: the program '= ~a' > failed to compute the derivation for Guix (version: ~s; system: ~s; > host version: ~s; pull-version: ~s). > Please report the COMPLETE output above by email to <~a>.~%" > > by something like: =E2=80=9Csorry, could you try again guix pull --co= mmit=3D~s > and report if it fails again.=E2=80=9D That would be an improvement over current state, however ... > b) Put here and there some logging [2] information. Patch#68946 [2] > provides logging facilities but is missing concrete user. > > It could be worth to have it. So then, once =E2=80=9Cguix pull=E2=80= =9D fails, we > could ask to re-run =E2=80=9Cguix pull --commit=3D --log-leve= l=3Ddebug=E2=80=9D. > > This would help in having some information at failure time instead > of asking them after. > > Moreover, it would provide information in order to diagnose all > these transient errors and see if they could be catched up instead > of erroring. > > WDYT? I agree that this would be even better and IMHO we should implement b. I.e., I think upon failure the message should: 1. recommend retrying at least once before submitting a bug report, and 2. should ensure submitted bug reports are as informative as possible. --=20 Suhail