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From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: "Janneke Nieuwenhuizen" <janneke@gnu.org>,
	"Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: "Noé Lopez" <noe@xn--no-cja.eu>, "Noé Lopez" <noelopez@free.fr>,
	"Christopher Baines" <mail@cbaines.net>,
	74736@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process.
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:45:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y0zikfch.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h667nmdk.fsf@gnu.org>

Hi Janneke,

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 at 08:44, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> wrote:

>> # Motivation
>
> Am I right that the main purpose/intent is (not trying to twist anyone's words)

[...]

>   * to draw more attention to / have important discussions stand out
>   more in all the "noise", and guided by

[...]

>   * a collective decision on what "important" is?

Yes! :-)

>                                    A drawback could be that it slows
> development down, but for important changes that may be a good thing?

I would you say yes :-)

And I would also say it’s a counter measure against “Why wasn't I
consulted“ [1] or some bullet points [2] from the talk that appear to me
helpful and that had been inspiration.

1: https://youtu.be/m0rakUuPXFM
2: https://simon.tournier.info/posts/2023-10-30-toward-rfc.html


> The only things that I could suggest is to see if we should make it even
> be more lightweight/nimble as a first version, e.g, require only two
> *persons*, so that two authors could start a submission
>
>     The RFC is *submitted* once it has at least one co-author or
>     supporter in addition to the initial author(s).

Ah you mean that the case of ’two authors’ does not require a Sponsor*,
right?

*Sponsor: was ’Supporter’ but renamed in order to avoid confusion
 between supporting the Document before the Discussion Period and
 replying ’I support’ during the Delibration Period.

> or use shorter periods, e.g.
>
>     submission[label=<Submission Period<br />up to 7 days>]
>     comments[label=<Discussion Period<br />15–60 days>]
>     deliberation[label=<Deliberation Period<br />8-14 days>]
>
> but I have no strong opinion on these.

About the Discussion Period, I do not have an opinion.  From my
intuition, it appears to be helpful when all have the time and space for
expressing their comments.

About the Deliberation Period, I think we need to have enough time and 2
weeks sound the good range based on what we are already doing for patch
review.

Thanks for the comments.

Cheers,
simon




  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-10 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-08 12:29 [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] Add Request-For-Comment process Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-08 12:31 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 1/1] rfc: " Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-12 18:14   ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-12 19:47     ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-14 10:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-23 17:58         ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-26 11:15           ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-09 20:47 ` Artyom V. Poptsov
2024-12-12 19:30 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v3] rfc: " Simon Tournier
2024-12-14 10:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-22 13:06   ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-22 13:56 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v4 0/1] " Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-22 13:56   ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v4 1/1] " Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-23 14:42     ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] " Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-23 17:33       ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-26 11:28         ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-31 15:23           ` Simon Tournier
2024-12-29 18:31       ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2024-12-30 11:03         ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-30 11:58           ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2025-01-04 17:28             ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-05 12:51               ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2025-01-06 10:29                 ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-06 17:40                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-08 10:53               ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-09 13:27                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-09 22:48                   ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-10 10:39                     ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2025-01-10 13:02                       ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-03 18:14 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v5] rfc: " Simon Tournier
2025-01-06 22:29   ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-07 17:06     ` Noé Lopez via Guix-patches via
2025-01-08 15:12       ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] Add Request-For-Comment process Suhail Singh
2025-01-09 17:21         ` Simon Tournier
     [not found]     ` <825F8319-4F41-4F4C-81B3-2C84A73A13CF@housseini.me>
2025-01-08  6:33       ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process reza via Guix-patches via
2025-01-09 23:22         ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-08 16:26     ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] Add Request-For-Comment process pukkamustard
2025-01-09 17:18       ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-09 21:00         ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-09 21:16       ` Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-09 16:21     ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process Simon Tournier
2025-01-09 22:32       ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v2 0/1] Add Request-For-Comment process Ludovic Courtès
2025-01-09 23:56         ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-10  0:40     ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v6] Add Request-for-Comments process Vagrant Cascadian
2025-01-10 12:25       ` Simon Tournier
2025-01-10  7:44     ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2025-01-10 12:45       ` Simon Tournier [this message]
2025-01-10 13:17         ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
2025-01-07 19:40 ` [bug#74736] Add Request-For-Comment process Ricardo Wurmus
2025-01-09 23:45 ` [bug#74736] [PATCH v7] Add Guix Common Document process Simon Tournier

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