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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GCC language front-ends
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:12:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqcvqqs2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140605154228.GB16709@debian.eduroam.u-bordeaux.fr> (Andreas Enge's message of "Thu, 5 Jun 2014 17:42:28 +0200")

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:

> On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 03:00:57PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> It’s been discussed several times, but there’s no satisfactory solution
>> so far.  Changing the name seems like a bad idea, because it’s really
>> gcc.  Making either gcc-final or gcc-4.8 private isn’t an option because
>> they’re referred from elsewhere.
>
> Sorry for my forgetfulness. So the references to gcc-4.8 could not be replaced
> by references to gcc-final?

No.  It’s a bit tricky but the idea is: gcc-4.8 is the “abstract” recipe
for GCC, whereas gcc-final is a specialized recipe for use in the
bootstrap process.

The abstract recipe has useful properties:

  • it is a “normal”, self-contained package recipe, and thus easier to
    grasp;

  • it can be cross-compiled (whereas gcc-final cannot, because it is
    anchored in the bootstrap dependency DAG);

  • it can easily be derived (for gfortran, etc.);

  • it remains valid even when the default GCC version changes.

So we need that abstract gcc-4.8.

At the same time, for native compilation, we only ever want to use
gcc-final, because gcc-4.8 is just the same compiler built once more
with itself.

So ideally, ‘guix package’ would magically ignore the abstract gcc-4.8
(and coreutils, grep, etc.) and favor their -final variant.

I hope I’m being clear, but I’m not sure.  ;-)

Ludo’.

      reply	other threads:[~2014-06-05 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-04 21:22 Hydra time out Andreas Enge
2014-06-04 21:34 ` GCC language front-ends Ludovic Courtès
2014-06-04 21:46   ` Andreas Enge
2014-06-05 13:00     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-06-05 15:42       ` Andreas Enge
2014-06-05 16:12         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]

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