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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add systemd.
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 13:01:28 -0400
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ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:

> Hello Marius,
>
> Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com> skribis:
>
>> As discussed at FOSDEM, it is clear that The Shepherd does not have what
>> it takes to boot a modern Linux system.  While it works today, adding
>> bootloader, DNS server, NTP client, syslog, udev, seat management,
>> dishwasher, hardware database, network management and other essential
>> PID 1 features is going to take too much effort and duplicate work.
>
> To be honest, while the Shepherd has been a fun hack, I=E2=80=99ve been m=
ore and
> more feeling that yeah, it wouldn=E2=80=99t cut it in the long term (it=
=E2=80=99s also
> become clearer Scheme as convenient as C when it comes to systems
> programming and things like dealing with dependency graphs.)
>
> Thanks a lot for taking this step!

Does this mean that our Hurd port is to be abandoned, or is the plan to
maintain a fork of systemd that supports the Hurd?

       Mark