From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Giovanni Biscuolo Subject: plz is there a roadmap for a more resilient substitutes infrastructure? Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 13:16:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87wopv7jzw.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIYNQ-0004sK-Iu for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:16:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIYNM-0001mB-5O for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:16:36 -0400 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:37898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIYNL-0001ke-5J for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 08:16:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE4D3000D3 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns13.heimat.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qttY8U94hS-7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bourrache.mug.xelera.it (unknown [93.56.161.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C5833000D2 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roquette.mug.biscuolo.net (roquette.mug.biscuolo.net [10.38.2.14]) by bourrache.mug.xelera.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B681300056 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2018 13:16:05 +0100 (CET) List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciao, recently users and developers are facing hard to manage problems due to the maintainance of hydra.gnu.org and its proxy mirror.hydra.gnu.org [1] since 23 Oct 2018 unfortunately many recent reports from users in help-guix and guix-devel mailing list clearly shows that berlin.guixsd.org it's still not a solution, since several missing substitutes are forcing users to "build the world" [2] please is there a roadmap in GNU and/or Guix devel team to address this problems? GuixSD is now well known in the free software community, please aknowledge that this king of problems are detrimental to project reputation=20 given the prolonged issue, please also consider writing an *official* blog post explaining the current situation and steps adopted to prevent similar issues in the future Me and many others would be very happy to help building a more resilient substitutes infrastructure: just tell us how to do for example: 1. is there a method to "replicate the whole store of an official server (e.g. hydra.gnu.org once healed)" so we can just "guix publish" a *complete* mirror? In this case a ready to use official mirror-config.scm could be useful 2. is there an official mirrors directory users can look at when needed? 3. is there a plan to build a service similar to http://httpredir.debian.org/? (I looked on the web but did not find any reference to such plan) ciao Giovanni [1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D33151=20 [2] peronally I'm trying to install a bare-bones.scm machine in a VM and guix is compiling many many packages, including texlive... :-S (using berlin.guixsd.org as substitute URL) [3] https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/en/html_node/Invoking-guix-pub= lish.html =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAlvcQAQACgkQ030Op87M ORLWPBAA1TpTZ/AxDIPnoyyvi1CkyPqdXjjGlYB5BjDSN0Vk8CHp8vR8BuyGs5cP 5XA9Hb2e8kPtqJo/iQF1eK23J1NIyxL5nOI84YUXrqb3N/cAY2NNTH4JtxbAdIZW mtAggi3fRdZvDs9xTM9N8hJ58gN61GPpVvF7qXD/f1VWB89MNOYWvk+z8SsZffdm ossxc/XKTk08tqiezGqgZo8T5HpkY1P4wi5N5oP3+uuKmK3KolN+wWrOgjpIBjv1 MaU6kOWZR4A8mGRxWl4rBrco7aOQoeDSLY7vQm1NNYWMA873TUHEtuZ9oHqrSgpP nNZoTRuWfdbtyLphxmhuJsMjeRrCX2No2ro/WWripPJfHdm1TS6l788HEtXFqp0E GxQOt//rSnvMQQGGSIQTTCSwSZGp2H0/Xziw6DKSDvaI54CVIBx5w8L57JYvtfLA F1x+M1NhlwXGh4FncrTxDj4KWUECk6MtptWtR8ecktMBq/gJHkwnJBDiwEe6yB64 w7NrAtP783NqqPrpHIW761pnzMsi32DCIvrWaj2vyLTiU2VYoAUHAhRrS8GsrsAT Jl8aiQ1uQmo668sK6Q9/ic7waVFUaILg8wSB2MOBjk7iq5m/q2P5zXtr2wRSdtCQ Ve3HtlU11bmgY9MNp2KdhhEX4wSztRd76HK9cCQg6w5nRr0DmVA= =yj/k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--