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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
@ 2018-11-02 10:57 Ludovic Courtès
  2018-11-02 13:46 ` swedebugia
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-11-02 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 33239

Hello,

The ‘guix offload’ processes on berlin regularly hang while calling
‘channel-get-exit-status’:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
#1  0x00007f2994287577 in ssh_poll_ctx_dopoll () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
#2  0x00007f29942884d9 in ssh_handle_packets () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
#3  0x00007f29942885ad in ssh_handle_packets_termination () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
#4  0x00007f2994275080 in ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
#5  0x00007f29946dd11a in guile_ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/i3nfl17wfx7sryq6w15r9wxl7ilmq4rb-guile-ssh-0.11.3/lib/libguile-ssh.so.11
#6  0x00007f29a1765965 in vm_regular_engine (thread=0x1dd58c0, vp=0x1d4df30, registers=0xffffffff, resume=-1615646479) at vm-engine.c:786
#7  0x00007f29a1768fba in scm_call_n (proc=#<program 7f29a1be0030>, argv=argv@entry=0x7ffc76b1ece8, nargs=nargs@entry=1) at vm.c:1257
#8  0x00007f29a16ecff7 in scm_primitive_eval (
    exp=exp@entry=((@ (ice-9 control) %) (begin ((@@ (ice-9 command-line) load/lang) "/gnu/store/zz3b7j4iv6v143v7cqyr77k83zc5n3zw-guix-0.15.0-6.f9a8fce/bin/.guix-real") (main (command-line)) (quit)))) at eval.c:662
#9  0x00007f29a16ed053 in scm_eval (
    exp=((@ (ice-9 control) %) (begin ((@@ (ice-9 command-line) load/lang) "/gnu/store/zz3b7j4iv6v143v7cqyr77k83zc5n3zw-guix-0.15.0-6.f9a8fce/bin/.guix-real") (main (command-line)) (quit))), module_or_state=module_or_state@entry="#<struct module>" = {...}) at eval.c:696
#10 0x00007f29a1738220 in scm_shell (argc=11, argv=0x1dd5280) at script.c:454

(gdb) frame 0
#0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
29      in ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c
(gdb) p *fds
$1 = {fd = 14, events = 1, revents = 0}
(gdb) shell ls -l /proc/12605/fd
total 0
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:20 0 -> 'pipe:[44413497]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 1 -> 'pipe:[44413496]'
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 10 -> 'pipe:[44459532]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 11 -> 'pipe:[44459532]'
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 12 -> 'pipe:[44429590]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 13 -> 'pipe:[44429590]'
lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 14 -> 'socket:[44444783]'
lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 15 -> 'socket:[44444784]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 16 -> /var/guix/offload/141.80.167.140/0
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 2 -> 'pipe:[44413496]'
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 3 -> 'pipe:[44459528]'
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 33 -> /dev/urandom
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 4 -> 'pipe:[44413498]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 5 -> 'pipe:[44459528]'
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 6 -> 'pipe:[44459531]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 7 -> 'pipe:[44459531]'
lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 8 -> 'pipe:[44453928]'
l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 9 -> 'pipe:[44453928]'
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I believe this is because in (guix ssh) we don’t ensure the remote
process is dead by the time we call ‘channel-get-exit-status’, as in
this example:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
scheme@(guix ssh)> (define s (open-ssh-session "localhost" #:user "ludo" #:port 22))
scheme@(guix ssh)> (define c (open-remote-pipe* s OPEN_BOTH "sleep 1000"))
scheme@(guix ssh)> (channel-send-eof c)
$4 = #<undefined>
scheme@(guix ssh)> (channel-get-exit-status c)
;; hangs
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Problem is that calling ‘channel-get-exit-status’ on a closed port
doesn’t work, so forcing a port close isn’t really an option:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
scheme@(guix ssh)> (define c (open-remote-pipe* s OPEN_BOTH "sleep 100"))
scheme@(guix ssh)> (close-port c)
$4 = #t
scheme@(guix ssh)> (channel-get-exit-status c)
ERROR: In procedure channel-get-exit-status:
In procedure channel-get-exit-status: Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting open channel): #<unknown channel (freed) 221d5c0>
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

To be continued…

Ludo’.

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-11-02 10:57 bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-11-02 13:46 ` swedebugia
  2018-11-03 14:09   ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-11-17 19:14 ` swedebugia
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: swedebugia @ 2018-11-02 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès, 33239

Hi :)


On 2018-11-02 11:57, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> (gdb) shell ls -l /proc/12605/fd
How did you come up with this file descriptor (did not appear above)
What does this give you in the debugging?

-- 
Cheers
Swedebugia

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-11-02 13:46 ` swedebugia
@ 2018-11-03 14:09   ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-11-03 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: swedebugia; +Cc: 33239

Hello,

swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net> skribis:

> On 2018-11-02 11:57, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> (gdb) shell ls -l /proc/12605/fd
> How did you come up with this file descriptor (did not appear above)

It showed up in the pollfd structure passed to ‘poll’.

> What does this give you in the debugging?

It shows that the file descriptor is indeed open and corresponds to a
socket (which is not much, I admit.)

Ludo’.

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-11-02 10:57 bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call Ludovic Courtès
  2018-11-02 13:46 ` swedebugia
@ 2018-11-17 19:14 ` swedebugia
  2018-11-23 17:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: swedebugia @ 2018-11-17 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès, 33239

On 2018-11-02 11:57, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

snip

> To be continued…

I found this which might be related and point you to a solution: 
https://github.com/paramiko/paramiko/issues/448

found here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=channel-get-exit-status+ssh

-- 
Cheers Swedebugia

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-11-02 10:57 bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call Ludovic Courtès
  2018-11-02 13:46 ` swedebugia
  2018-11-17 19:14 ` swedebugia
@ 2018-11-23 17:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-11-25 16:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-12-22 16:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-11-23 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 33239

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:

> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
> #1  0x00007f2994287577 in ssh_poll_ctx_dopoll () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #2  0x00007f29942884d9 in ssh_handle_packets () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #3  0x00007f29942885ad in ssh_handle_packets_termination () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #4  0x00007f2994275080 in ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #5  0x00007f29946dd11a in guile_ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/i3nfl17wfx7sryq6w15r9wxl7ilmq4rb-guile-ssh-0.11.3/lib/libguile-ssh.so.11
> #6  0x00007f29a1765965 in vm_regular_engine (thread=0x1dd58c0, vp=0x1d4df30, registers=0xffffffff, resume=-1615646479) at vm-engine.c:786
> #7  0x00007f29a1768fba in scm_call_n (proc=#<program 7f29a1be0030>, argv=argv@entry=0x7ffc76b1ece8, nargs=nargs@entry=1) at vm.c:1257
> #8  0x00007f29a16ecff7 in scm_primitive_eval (
>     exp=exp@entry=((@ (ice-9 control) %) (begin ((@@ (ice-9 command-line) load/lang) "/gnu/store/zz3b7j4iv6v143v7cqyr77k83zc5n3zw-guix-0.15.0-6.f9a8fce/bin/.guix-real") (main (command-line)) (quit)))) at eval.c:662
> #9  0x00007f29a16ed053 in scm_eval (
>     exp=((@ (ice-9 control) %) (begin ((@@ (ice-9 command-line) load/lang) "/gnu/store/zz3b7j4iv6v143v7cqyr77k83zc5n3zw-guix-0.15.0-6.f9a8fce/bin/.guix-real") (main (command-line)) (quit))), module_or_state=module_or_state@entry="#<struct module>" = {...}) at eval.c:696
> #10 0x00007f29a1738220 in scm_shell (argc=11, argv=0x1dd5280) at script.c:454
>
> (gdb) frame 0
> #0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
> 29      in ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c
> (gdb) p *fds
> $1 = {fd = 14, events = 1, revents = 0}
> (gdb) shell ls -l /proc/12605/fd
> total 0
> lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:20 0 -> 'pipe:[44413497]'
> l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 1 -> 'pipe:[44413496]'
> lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 10 -> 'pipe:[44459532]'
> l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 11 -> 'pipe:[44459532]'
> lr-x------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 12 -> 'pipe:[44429590]'
> l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 13 -> 'pipe:[44429590]'
> lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 14 -> 'socket:[44444783]'
> lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 15 -> 'socket:[44444784]'
> l-wx------ 1 root root 64 Nov  2 11:33 16 -> /var/guix/offload/141.80.167.140/0

When that happens, the guile process on the remote node that runs the
‘redirect’ code of ‘remote-daemon-channel’ is stuck in select(2) with
infinite timeout.

Note on berlin the build nodes are still running Guile 2.2.2, vulnerable
to the ‘select’ bug <https://bugs.gnu.org/30365>, which we ‘redirect’
supposedly works around.

Ludo’.

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-11-02 10:57 bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call Ludovic Courtès
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-11-23 17:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-11-25 16:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-12-22 16:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-11-25 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 33239

Hello,

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:

> The ‘guix offload’ processes on berlin regularly hang while calling
> ‘channel-get-exit-status’:

The bug still shows up periodically on berlin but I haven’t found a way
to reproduce it in a controlled environment.  Commit
63fd9f084a5e345d2edaeaf5e8f435a3130f9edc should make it less likely,
we’ll see…

Ludo’.

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-11-02 10:57 bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call Ludovic Courtès
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2018-11-25 16:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-12-22 16:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-12-25 16:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-12-22 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 33239

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:

> The ‘guix offload’ processes on berlin regularly hang while calling
> ‘channel-get-exit-status’:
>
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
> #1  0x00007f2994287577 in ssh_poll_ctx_dopoll () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #2  0x00007f29942884d9 in ssh_handle_packets () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #3  0x00007f29942885ad in ssh_handle_packets_termination () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #4  0x00007f2994275080 in ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
> #5  0x00007f29946dd11a in guile_ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/i3nfl17wfx7sryq6w15r9wxl7ilmq4rb-guile-ssh-0.11.3/lib/libguile-ssh.so.11
> #6  0x00007f29a1765965 in vm_regular_engine (thread=0x1dd58c0, vp=0x1d4df30, registers=0xffffffff, resume=-1615646479) at vm-engine.c:786

I was able to come up with a reduced test case for Guile-SSH:

  https://github.com/artyom-poptsov/guile-ssh/issues/11

Ludo’.

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-12-22 16:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-12-25 16:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
  2019-01-09 20:37     ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-12-25 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 33239

Hello!

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:
>
>> The ‘guix offload’ processes on berlin regularly hang while calling
>> ‘channel-get-exit-status’:
>>
>> (gdb) bt
>> #0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
>> #1  0x00007f2994287577 in ssh_poll_ctx_dopoll () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>> #2  0x00007f29942884d9 in ssh_handle_packets () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>> #3  0x00007f29942885ad in ssh_handle_packets_termination () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>> #4  0x00007f2994275080 in ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>> #5  0x00007f29946dd11a in guile_ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/i3nfl17wfx7sryq6w15r9wxl7ilmq4rb-guile-ssh-0.11.3/lib/libguile-ssh.so.11
>> #6  0x00007f29a1765965 in vm_regular_engine (thread=0x1dd58c0, vp=0x1d4df30, registers=0xffffffff, resume=-1615646479) at vm-engine.c:786
>
> I was able to come up with a reduced test case for Guile-SSH:
>
>   https://github.com/artyom-poptsov/guile-ssh/issues/11

It turned out that the code to start a REPL server in (ssh dist node)
would currently hang, as I wrote in the bug report above.

After investigation, I decided that inferiors are more appropriate than
Guile-SSH’s node to address this use case, after all.  Commit
ed7b44370f71126087eb953f36aad8dc4c44109f changes ‘guix offload’ to
inferiors.

As a result, build machines must now run Guix > 0.15.0, which provides
‘guix repl’.  That in turn simplifies setup of build machines: no need
to fiddle with GUILE_LOAD_PATH.

On berlin, build machines were running an older Guix so I copied a
recently pulled Guix on each of them and installed it in
~/.config/guix/current.  They’re now operational, except for the ARMv7
one which is still pulling.  So far it seems to be working well but
we’ll have to keep an eye on it.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

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* bug#33239: 'guix offload' regularly hangs in 'channel-get-exit-status' call
  2018-12-25 16:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2019-01-09 20:37     ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-01-09 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 33239-done

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis:
>
>> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) skribis:
>>
>>> The ‘guix offload’ processes on berlin regularly hang while calling
>>> ‘channel-get-exit-status’:
>>>
>>> (gdb) bt
>>> #0  0x00007f299fb330f1 in __GI___poll (fds=0x1dd58c0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
>>> #1  0x00007f2994287577 in ssh_poll_ctx_dopoll () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>>> #2  0x00007f29942884d9 in ssh_handle_packets () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>>> #3  0x00007f29942885ad in ssh_handle_packets_termination () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>>> #4  0x00007f2994275080 in ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/wmpg67bn7i7pqc0p4xjp1npnqixk9znd-libssh-0.7.6/lib/libssh.so.4
>>> #5  0x00007f29946dd11a in guile_ssh_channel_get_exit_status () from target:/gnu/store/i3nfl17wfx7sryq6w15r9wxl7ilmq4rb-guile-ssh-0.11.3/lib/libguile-ssh.so.11
>>> #6  0x00007f29a1765965 in vm_regular_engine (thread=0x1dd58c0, vp=0x1d4df30, registers=0xffffffff, resume=-1615646479) at vm-engine.c:786
>>
>> I was able to come up with a reduced test case for Guile-SSH:
>>
>>   https://github.com/artyom-poptsov/guile-ssh/issues/11
>
> It turned out that the code to start a REPL server in (ssh dist node)
> would currently hang, as I wrote in the bug report above.
>
> After investigation, I decided that inferiors are more appropriate than
> Guile-SSH’s node to address this use case, after all.  Commit
> ed7b44370f71126087eb953f36aad8dc4c44109f changes ‘guix offload’ to
> inferiors.

It looks like this commit fixed the bug above, so I’m closing it.

There are still occasional hangs in ‘ssh_handle_packets_termination’
though while reading from a channel but AFAICS that’s a different issue.

Ludo’.

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