eudev deprecation

eudev deprecation

[Lars-Dominik Braun]

Hi everyone,

it looks like eudev, which we heavily rely on, is dead upstream:
https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/issues/199

Looking at Gentoo’s ebuilds it should be possible to “extract”
and build udev from systemd’s sources.

Cheers,
Lars

Re: eudev deprecation

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Lars-Dominik Braun 写道：
> Looking at Gentoo’s ebuilds it should be possible to “extract”
> and build udev from systemd’s sources.

That's my understanding as well, but I haven't tried :o)

For easy reference, here's the link: 
https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/blob/master/sys-fs/udev/udev-249-r3.ebuild

And here's the original deprecation announcement: 
https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/issues/199

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: eudev deprecation

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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…and for completeness: a certain distro has a nascent Libera IRC 
channel with topic ‘let's keep eudev maintained’: 
http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan-eudev/

Perhaps it will become useful to us.

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: eudev deprecation

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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One more & I'll stop the spam:

https://pad.dyne.org/pad/#/2/pad/edit/ngCNROttei-mn3BnW3O1KHdG/

Kind regards,

T G-R

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Re: eudev deprecation

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

Further update:

> ADOPTION NOTICE (2021-09-14)
> 
> Currently eudev is in the process of being adopted by a newly
> formed project by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors [...]

-- https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev

We'll see?  Talk and Git repos are cheap; actually putting in this work 
is not.

Kind regards,

T G-R

Sent from a Web browser.  Excuse or enjoy my brevity.

Re: eudev deprecation

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Lars-Dominik Braun <lars@6xq.net> skribis:

> it looks like eudev, which we heavily rely on, is dead upstream:
> https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/issues/199
>
> Looking at Gentoo’s ebuilds it should be possible to “extract”
> and build udev from systemd’s sources.

Good.  That’s essentially what eudev is.

Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis:

> Further update:
>
>> ADOPTION NOTICE (2021-09-14)
>> Currently eudev is in the process of being adopted by a newly
>> formed project by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors [...]
>
> -- https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev
>
> We'll see?  Talk and Git repos are cheap; actually putting in this
> work is not.

Interesting.

Julien mentioned on IRC that Linux From Scratch is also considering
switching.  Julien, what’s the takeaway from the LFS discussions so far?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: eudev deprecation

[Julien Lepiller]

Le 28 septembre 2021 08:00:02 GMT-04:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>Lars-Dominik Braun <lars@6xq.net> skribis:
>
>> it looks like eudev, which we heavily rely on, is dead upstream:
>> https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/issues/199
>>
>> Looking at Gentoo’s ebuilds it should be possible to “extract”
>> and build udev from systemd’s sources.
>
>Good.  That’s essentially what eudev is.
>
>Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> skribis:
>
>> Further update:
>>
>>> ADOPTION NOTICE (2021-09-14)
>>> Currently eudev is in the process of being adopted by a newly
>>> formed project by Alpine, Devuan and Gentoo contributors [...]
>>
>> -- https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev
>>
>> We'll see?  Talk and Git repos are cheap; actually putting in this
>> work is not.
>
>Interesting.
>
>Julien mentioned on IRC that Linux From Scratch is also considering
>switching.  Julien, what’s the takeaway from the LFS discussions so far?
>
>Thanks,
>Ludo’.

My understandeng is that LFS will use udev, directly extracted fsom systemd's sources, in its sysvinit version. See https://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/4914 for reference.