From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:306:2d92::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id sIC9FgyM5mQcKgEASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2023 00:45:32 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:306:2d92::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id MEfXFQyM5mQXhAEAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2023 00:45:32 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05E9647C91 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2023 00:45:32 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1692830732; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=UHdsCNqGHIpl4S0PxeKLFRG7ht50ntXWjnHzVchTG0A=; b=i4Zj56DDJNEwH4iFDBn4MqME007OBNE+tAYdptrp+e6mAY6CpdjwY4RUZLiGk9H5u+9E0+ Ta70MY8mNTdlpoB3U09/K3bmTxv8lSDkZ2b3Xh2KMz/xdpP2fz/oQINrrQMDpQajxQLk0O l4zGFGLaGDDU84FtSU6WkDPyQIruFDlV8Oz2uFLplm/sC93ba/VkI6p56LCuYG8AqVVVDg CnrzZ5vx7YVdfg+lqYRqxHKSzNcLm+WnVhwk31OFCTiJJFzNhaNSW4XACUR9s7pbDANg2i YYkjm843qv0tXATklP2ss6y1AhX+k5GTwGwvYhEekczQnDsf8pYPjvBSjGpCUg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1692830732; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mVlMZ38yePPjN3+V/t+5p2WvZFaXIEaReP30t3aU3k3FDej4WqvlqKOAKXliH0gU+axACL QXbkNEoYVtBBbBWFaEm/PApaLqtPJ+9+M+xuc82NIM8K3tKpmlEVHpyKsEBJzoOiXx6fm+ DldWIjgjmI8cCtSVabQFg/LvbuBu8woIdRJRAbidpqt4eFEQ9CwUyXUuyCbYZ/lG0GXZQU ilfVRAsxK6Edxdxr8NC0BBWTkg5cW4LRUazTIF1uyXjPnEq1VE5ShKT1rkt7fl5XNgA7AI FAw2oPr9G1Xy6um98fScEWj/uGWfvyYpvEdt4vUAJcu5KzY8qPQ58cirtuwruQ== Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYwb2-0003SU-AP; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:45:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYway-0003Re-Mp for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:45:00 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYwav-0006qf-AB for help-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:45:00 -0400 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CE52240004; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:44:52 +0000 (UTC) References: <878ra4jcli.fsf@robbyzambito.me> <87a5ujwh0r.fsf@envs.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.10.5; emacs 28.2 From: Robby Zambito To: =?utf-8?B?5a6L5paH5q2m?= Cc: help-guix Subject: Re: Eradicating PulseAudio Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 18:29:00 -0400 In-reply-to: <87a5ujwh0r.fsf@envs.net> Message-ID: <87wmxl5qfy.fsf@robbyzambito.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GND-Sasl: contact@robbyzambito.me Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=contact@robbyzambito.me; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.43 X-Spam-Score: -3.43 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 05E9647C91 X-TUID: /OHi9UjRy2q8 =E5=AE=8B=E6=96=87=E6=AD=A6 writes: > Hello, you can disable the autospawn for PulseAudio by > put "autospawn =3D no" in ~/.config/pulse/client.conf. > > > It was not started by shepherd but autospawn by applications (eg: pulsemi= xer), > for reference: > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/R= unning/ Thank you for this tip. I thought it was being started by Shepherd because the process becomes a child of Shepherd after it is auto started. Adding this line to my configuration does help. PulseAudio no longer aggressively starts itself if I stop my pipewire-pulse service. Unfortunately some packages on my system (the primary package that comes to mind I cannot specifically say, but it comes from a different channel) depend on PulseAudio, and will manually start it if it is not running when I start the application. I am hoping for some way to do something equivalent to masking a package in Gentoo[1], so I can avoid having PulseAudio installed at all. I realize something like this might depend on package parameterization[2], but if there is some hacky way to do this with the current version of Guix, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Robby Footnotes: [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Knowledge_Base:Masking_a_package [2] https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2023/parameterized-packages-for-gnu-guix/