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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.47 X-Spam-Score: -5.47 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B8E3373F5E X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: Mok+SpDZ4iwI --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Efraim Flashner writes: > Three initial bits about Guix's support for mips64el: > 1. We stopped producing a standalone installer for mips64el before the > 1.0 release, which means it's been years since anyone has been able to > install it without help. Actually, 0.12 was the last version=C2=B9, back = in > 2016. > 2. We supported the Lemote Fuloong 2F=C2=B2/Loongson 2 (MIPS III) process= ors. > Except for very specific sticks of RAM, it only supported 1GB of RAM. As > for the processor, I believe most other distributions moved to the > Loongson 3 as their base. Debian=C2=B3 9 (in 2017) it seems switched to > Loongson 3A/3B based machines for their Loongson support. > 3. "Generic" --target=3Dmips64el-linux-gnu support from the GNU toolchain > doesn't support Loongson 2 chips, it needs some extra flags. I tested > this a few years ago and wasn't able to run a cross-compiled package on > one of our decommissioned mips64el build machines (citation needed). > > I suggest that we stop cross-compiling packages to mips64el since it is > really dead-dead, and not just mostly-dead or nearly-dead. What does this mean for mips64el-linux as a system? I have considered asking about this in the past because keeping it around does have a cost and we're not trying to build for it. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmZ9bw1fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9XfUpA/9ESqtc5xWMmqYUZN+7PDjmPSYZaQ3NCZ+ 2P0TVWhICoGqDHTl6tTNEnYBfryn2EhqxBofmiVsfF2e3XJ0Fmuw8oPpofnzUtv2 4vJ4v16BmG5hOL1Q7Z8WiVqrz46tv9w80er23vKg9KbbiVuGWTFPa8z9IvlIIq3o cMXH0hU3JYN2xCTU4DwgUNB85ZjYcFG5cF/C+U2DOxLU68PdzAd2PJWKDFXadLIM oROc1P+zMt3S1Dk2UCNu1bKhrcAE5KUl/z2L0/n5VmR8niJn64fzvQgL4Qtu8Gm1 n10BG0scvhSrA4l4hNxZa8T8Fzdo8p5PSDVt5wAX8ZpwIG5/y26DqDAnFQ/Aincm 4xiE27K8xEHcVJibtTElQPWQzwY97Ot9QJXR34IOq8UhRGfvsBWDDo7xP1E83wiL X8Ei/9LK0Mv97RjUejxDdgmZdqKXDWCn1pKkwgsc1KvItGzJ/37jh2AcgKTnX6tg g79dy6yEuM7S7L7XHt60BNLy43q3n/3/aB37C0bVsqC3xcXYo5gQ83NjHsvFmur8 sr6SXpFWIu7pjmIV/Ja5Hfe5xwdTTMAMwqHPFIMapcImCBOOClvfI1S+zIN912jY 8F96b/JO0gU3U4xOv+EoDqPFCmgzDM+/vzLBwVf3XkXsrAnqd7C2PFIuETw8cqEC 6vnjRg24ngo= =nwOy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--