From: Cayetano Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org> To: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> Cc: Guix-devel mailing list <guix-devel@gnu.org>, Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de>, Xinglu Chen <public@yoctocell.xyz>, 74231@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: [bug#74231] emacs-git-email: Guix policy for dealing with abandoned packages with active forks Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 17:20:01 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <87wmhfyq1a.fsf@inventati.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <87y11vf3ju.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Suhail Singh's message of "Thu, 07 Nov 2024 10:48:21 -0500") >jeu. 07 nov. 2024 at 10:48, Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> wrote: > Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org> writes: > >>>> To note that this is a completely different beast compared to previous >>>> package (repo, version and mantainer). >>> >>> Yes. Please let me know in case the commit message needs to be revised >>> (it already does note that we are changing the referenced fork). The >>> previous fork hasn't been updated in a couple of years and had a number >>> of bugs that have since been resolved in the updated fork. >> >> To me, the open question goes well beyond this package. >> >> Does guix package forks of code from a couple of years ago, without an >> explicit acknowledgement between maintainers ? > > The maintainer has not been active on their own mailing list > (<https://lists.sr.ht/~yoctocell/git-email-devel>) for a while despite > repeated discussions about outstanding issues ([1], [2]). I believe it > would be fair to characterize the original package as having been > abandoned. > > I'm CC-ing Xinglu Chen (the original author) to this email for > transparency. > >> Additionally, this is a second generation fork ... > > I am not sure I understand what you mean by "second generation" in this > regard. Could you please elaborate? > > If you're referring to the fact that it used another contributor's > (Mekeor) fork as a starting point, then for context please note that the > decision to treat my fork as "upstream" was in discussion with them > (since Mekeor's no longer actively using the package). > > I'm CC-ing Mekeor to this message for transparency. Yes, this is what I refer to. >> I’d say, better bring the question to guix-devel, as this has large >> implications. There must be a policy already around this point. > > I'm CC-ing guix-devel. Thanks ! I’m just curious about whether guix has a policy concerning this kind of situation, before reviewing your patch (#74231), as there might have consequences in the most general case. Namely, it is the case of patching a package definition, redirecting its source url to a fork by the patch’s author. Is that acceptable or a risk ? Is it up to the committer to evaluate, once being warned ? Something more explicit ? C.
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From: Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org> To: Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> Cc: 74231@debbugs.gnu.org, Guix-devel mailing list <guix-devel@gnu.org>, Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de>, Xinglu Chen <public@yoctocell.xyz> Subject: Re: emacs-git-email: Guix policy for dealing with abandoned packages with active forks Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 17:20:01 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <87wmhfyq1a.fsf@inventati.org> (raw) Message-ID: <20241107162001.7G0FEX40lPcSGeyOpUBVZLd7JNAz4Xd4cMNW06YfEbY@z> (raw) In-Reply-To: <87y11vf3ju.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Suhail Singh's message of "Thu, 07 Nov 2024 10:48:21 -0500") >jeu. 07 nov. 2024 at 10:48, Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com> wrote: > Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org> writes: > >>>> To note that this is a completely different beast compared to previous >>>> package (repo, version and mantainer). >>> >>> Yes. Please let me know in case the commit message needs to be revised >>> (it already does note that we are changing the referenced fork). The >>> previous fork hasn't been updated in a couple of years and had a number >>> of bugs that have since been resolved in the updated fork. >> >> To me, the open question goes well beyond this package. >> >> Does guix package forks of code from a couple of years ago, without an >> explicit acknowledgement between maintainers ? > > The maintainer has not been active on their own mailing list > (<https://lists.sr.ht/~yoctocell/git-email-devel>) for a while despite > repeated discussions about outstanding issues ([1], [2]). I believe it > would be fair to characterize the original package as having been > abandoned. > > I'm CC-ing Xinglu Chen (the original author) to this email for > transparency. > >> Additionally, this is a second generation fork ... > > I am not sure I understand what you mean by "second generation" in this > regard. Could you please elaborate? > > If you're referring to the fact that it used another contributor's > (Mekeor) fork as a starting point, then for context please note that the > decision to treat my fork as "upstream" was in discussion with them > (since Mekeor's no longer actively using the package). > > I'm CC-ing Mekeor to this message for transparency. Yes, this is what I refer to. >> I’d say, better bring the question to guix-devel, as this has large >> implications. There must be a policy already around this point. > > I'm CC-ing guix-devel. Thanks ! I’m just curious about whether guix has a policy concerning this kind of situation, before reviewing your patch (#74231), as there might have consequences in the most general case. Namely, it is the case of patching a package definition, redirecting its source url to a fork by the patch’s author. Is that acceptable or a risk ? Is it up to the committer to evaluate, once being warned ? Something more explicit ? C.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-07 16:21 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2024-11-06 18:37 [bug#74231] [PATCH] gnu: emacs-git-email: Update to 0.5.0 Suhail Singh 2024-11-06 18:37 ` [bug#74231] [PATCH v2] gnu: emacs-git-email: Update to 0.6.0 Suhail Singh 2024-11-15 7:41 ` bug#74231: " Liliana Marie Prikler 2024-11-07 11:40 ` [bug#74231] QA review for 74231 Cayetano Santos via Guix-patches via 2024-11-07 13:32 ` Suhail Singh 2024-11-07 15:13 ` Cayetano Santos via Guix-patches via 2024-11-07 15:48 ` emacs-git-email: Guix policy for dealing with abandoned packages with active forks (was: [bug#74231] QA review for 74231) Suhail Singh 2024-11-07 16:08 ` emacs-git-email: Guix policy for dealing with abandoned packages with active forks Suhail Singh 2024-11-07 16:20 ` Cayetano Santos via Guix-patches via [this message] 2024-11-07 16:20 ` Cayetano Santos 2024-11-11 2:45 ` [bug#74231] " Liam Hupfer 2024-11-11 2:45 ` Liam Hupfer
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