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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Problems with handicapped 'bash' from glibc package
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:39:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbwkmdrc.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ob2c1njb.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Wed, 12 Feb 2014 14:14:00 +0100")

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>
>> The 'bash' in the glibc package is handicapped in at least two ways:
>>
>> * It can't set the locale, because it looks for locales in
>>   /nix/store/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-glibc-intermediate-2.18-locales
>>
>> * It can't look up anything from NSS, such as passwd data, because it
>>   tries to load the modules from
>>   /nix/store/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-glibc-intermediate-2.18
>>
>> There are two problems that need to be addressed, I think:
>>
>> * Users could easily end up with this handicapped 'bash' as their
>>   primary bash, if they installed (or upgraded?) 'glibc' since the last
>>   time I installed 'bash'.  This happened to me, for example.
>>
>> * Some (most?) programs in Guix that launch subprocesses with the shell
>>   use this handicapped one.  For example, every time I run 'w3m', it
>>   prints two warnings about 'sh' being unable to set the locale.
>>
>> Any suggestions about how we should address these problems?
>
> Indeed, that’s a problem.
>
> For the record, the handicaped bash comes from the removal of /bin/sh
> [0].  It is used by ‘system’ and ‘popen’.
>
> Looks like solving this would require either rewriting glibc references
> in the static bash binary (tricky, especially since the glibc directory
> names have different lengths currently), or building Bash directly in
> the glibc-final derivation so that it refers to the right libc with all
> its bells and whistles.
>
> The latter sounds best, but it would require to sort of duplicate the
> build recipe of Bash internally.

FWIW, I think this latter option is the least bad of the ones you
suggested, and I can't think of a better solution.

While we're on the subject of 'bash', should we be applying the patches
in http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-4.2-patches/ ?

      Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-12 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-12  7:12 Problems with handicapped 'bash' from glibc package Mark H Weaver
2014-02-12 13:14 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-12 17:39   ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2014-02-12 19:31     ` Andreas Enge
2014-02-12 20:33       ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-02-12 21:33         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-02-13  9:14           ` Andreas Enge
2014-03-23 16:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-03-23 20:19   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-23 20:27     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-03-24  3:31       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-28 13:48         ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-03-24  3:55       ` Optimizing union.scm Mark H Weaver
2014-03-24 13:45         ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-03-25  7:04           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-25 17:18             ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-03-25 22:30               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-25 22:58                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-03-27  7:09                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-27  9:57                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-04-02 14:14             ` Optimizing ‘guix package’ Ludovic Courtès
2014-04-02 16:58               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-03-26 23:29   ` Problems with handicapped 'bash' from glibc package Ludovic Courtès

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