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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Preliminary 'wip-armhf' branch pushed
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 17:07:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbkoygyp.fsf@yeeloong.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sifsgb8h.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Fri, 02 Jan 2015 21:48:30 +0100")

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>
>> I don't think we need a 'system' for every combination of flags.  We
>> should just find a small number of "sweet spots" in the tradeoff between
>> minimum requirements vs performance.  IMO, for 32-bit ARM, two systems
>> should be enough: armhf, and maybe another one (armel?) that works on
>> lower-end processors.
>
> It’s not even clear that “hf” needs to be part of the system name.

I think it needs to be part of the system name, because on ARM these are
two incompatible ABIs.  Among other things, the hard-float ABI passes
floating point arguments in registers.

> In theory, the bootstrap tarballs could be soft-float, which means they
> would run everywhere, and from there users could choose what
> --with-float and --with-fpu flags to use.

A single GCC can generate code for both ABIs, but each ABI uses its own
dynamic linker.  If we did as you suggest, we'd need two separate
bootstrap glibc's, and improve the dynamic-linker-name patching code in
our gcc package to rewrite the two dynamic linker names separately, etc.

     Thanks,
       Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-02 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-31 17:31 Preliminary 'wip-armhf' branch pushed Mark H Weaver
2014-12-31 17:47 ` John Darrington
2014-12-31 19:23   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-12-31 20:20     ` John Darrington
2014-12-31 23:40       ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01  6:14         ` John Darrington
2015-01-01  7:11           ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01  7:24             ` John Darrington
2015-01-01 18:22               ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01 19:04                 ` John Darrington
2015-01-02 20:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-02 22:07       ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2015-01-03 19:07         ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-12-31 22:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-12-31 22:55   ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01 18:53 ` Problem with natively-built armhf bootstrap compiler Mark H Weaver
2015-01-02  2:19   ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-02  4:56     ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-02 21:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-03 18:37         ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-07 13:15           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-07 15:15             ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-07 15:30               ` [PATCH] gnu: gcc-static: Remove -lgcc_s from GNU_USER_TARGET_LIB_SPEC Mark H Weaver
2015-01-07 17:15                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-02 20:45 ` Preliminary 'wip-armhf' branch pushed Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-03 18:49   ` Mark H Weaver

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