From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: Reproducible installation images Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:21:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87vahd1jur.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r2s6btbc.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7yssv0a.fsf@netris.org> <87shch4nn1.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20171211093649.rbka5xk6ojrcvhtf@abyayala> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOO15-0008IR-La for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:21:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOO11-0000mB-NO for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:21:07 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:49488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eOO11-0000la-GY for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:21:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20171211093649.rbka5xk6ojrcvhtf@abyayala> (ng0@n0.is's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:36:49 +0000") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Mark H Weaver Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org ng0 skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s transcribed 2.6K bytes: [...] >> However, disk images are likely not bit-reproducible currently, >> primarily due to non-determinism in how file systems populate the disk. >>=20 >> They might be reproducible if =E2=80=98guix system=E2=80=99 always creat= es files in the >> same order, which is something we could enforce (perhaps that=E2=80=99s = already >> the case). If it=E2=80=99s not sufficient, then we should look at what = others >> in the reproducible-builds.org effort have been doing (Tails achieved >> reproducible ISO images, for instance, and I think OpenWrt people were >> looking at ext2 reproducibility.) >>=20 >> There may also be lingering non-reproducibility issues in some of the >> packages included that need to be addressed. >>=20 >> It would be good to investigate! > > Definitely, I agree. Should we open a new bug ticket to track this effort? Sure, two even: one for the binary tarball, one for the GuixSD ISO image. Ludo=E2=80=99.