From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Lassieur Subject: Re: Packaging a free Firefox Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 22:45:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87vac4foxo.fsf@lassieur.org> References: <87y3h1g42q.fsf@lassieur.org> <877eolw9w7.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40753) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEL76-0001GV-HE for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2018 16:46:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEL75-0002ni-Kh for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2018 16:46:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <877eolw9w7.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Chris Marusich Cc: Nils Gillmann , guix-devel@gnu.org Hi Chris, Chris Marusich writes: > Clément Lassieur writes: > >> I find Icecat very buggy, even if I compare it to a home-made Firefox >> package that inherits Icecat (and thus is very close to Icecat). For >> example I can't even pay with my credit card with icecat-52-guix, >> whereas I can with firefox-home-52-guix. (It looks like a javascript >> issue.) Also, lots of videos don't work, and it's difficult to know >> whether it's because of technical issues or because of DRM. > > This has not been my experience with IceCat. With two exceptions, > IceCat has performed just as well as Firefox for me for everything I > have done, including credit card payments. I sometimes watch YouTube > videos using IceCat, but I don't view many other videos, so I can't > really comment on how well IceCat handles videos. If it requires DRM, > of course, it's not going to work in IceCat, which is a good thing. > > When I use IceCat over TOR, it doesn't always work. When I use IceCat > with extensions (plugins? add-ons? I'm not sure what the right > terminology is here) like NoScript enabled, it doesn't always work. But > when I don't use TOR and I disable those add-ons, everything works just > as well as stock Firefox. If you're still having trouble after > disabling those things, can you describe the specifics of what you're > having trouble with? You are right, there were tons of add-ons enabled, and disabling them allowed me to do my credit card payment. I don't know why I never thought about disabling them. (I wonder if it would be better to disable them by default.) So... I apologize for being unfair with Icecat :-) most of what I said is wrong. The version issue remains though: having a Firefox 58 (not 52) would be great, but maybe it's not worth doing the package, I don't know. Thank you all for replying, and thanks to the Icecat mainteners for their work ;-) Clément