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Worked almost flawl= essly >> (daemonize wasn't installed and I missed the part when it was mentioned = because >> I was a bit in a hurry but apart from that the overall experience was gr= eat =E2=80=94 >> the guix text art was surprising in a good kind of way). > > I think that a big part of why we offer the SysV-init "/etc/init.d" > service management script is to serve Devuan =E2=80=94 there are not many > distros using that style of service management anymore. Out of the *five* bug reports the guix packages in Debian received, *two* of them were related to using SysV init (or at least not using systemd): https://bugs.debian.org/974751 https://bugs.debian.org/983248 So while Debian defaults to systemd, there is still the ability to choose between init systems, and some people do explore that option. I also just noticed some openrc scripts available too... > If `daemonize` is not available by default on Devuan, I wonder if > there is some other way we should be writing the script. Yeah, not sure what best practices are for SysV init scripts these days. For Debian I just documented that users of SysV in debian should install daemonize; in future versions I may make it a soft alternate dependency to the relevent systemd packages. live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCYJLPdAAKCRDcUY/If5cW qgNOAQD4jfzs13YQgcWvKPjPL2LY+aARagdpSCF+f7qKQJNCygD+Jcoo/HL+Cf0S EoopNCXc7w4gPhe+nCiufRNCeiJd9Qg= =ZBAq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--