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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1639966372; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=jdKTSx5Q4Cj6yYhHGEQZ+WA0LwVwMolL/+cpYgcz8Ls=; b=lZqFWj/RRQnW7wIwiIQbat+/1UeRzKU0f7itXFC/9d63BCXXhgB3/ZWcrfN6HmVw6zAh3Q Y8O89xNwRO2pyrzSKEmu+DXP9nFvLg8BtjLReaS5R1IIwM81U8QE2m5mREQRd6zzbAu/Fu ErUkJZtZq7nyPSHZfJq4yV1DKyg381Cb3Jj3MKjooIq9t1vIvNMGln6pYjgUhcqJBXdwnY e/tUYZZ0RTZjQd68R+LPi10MPH9qP/arkaZjX7I3wI4vmigLnrd0ovQLyRCL94off+031I lbPncPGjRRBb9hcF0pr2xhjuKCgJetdNx4ZZt/itHcfrWWRqnELLXmkX+1UCxQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1639966372; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HATAPYjBRW8z7XrRP9jWPkfd2HUWVvVduoKknw2ZtEJmTrWKrOn7RYvz3y25pucdp+gY2J egSUikSrbsbxeBcl/zVm617OGOlO0BYhgPXZvDgE9b6ye2+1caS8JFVmLrjICQLSWR6xoy BJliI98R0kU1eLTfTvrbksrugy5T81QKvq6GJAd7+xoT5lJVmoBEhkP++lNdollnd8hZtC VqTpVLNxy1Q0r3gvaid4Y0FaGBBi2W0nEFF/Lwj4orbkpmxCM5FlUFNN5RlttX6IEmkauU B2OusNs+4LqlId9dY55wq7ACuEWoOdEoOJUiaEJRnrJ5xaD6gucdLHmkQHnU9g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=R+B6oRp5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.22 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=R+B6oRp5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 923672C56C X-Spam-Score: -8.22 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: SQP+p6MX4kCg Hi Simon, zimoun writes: > Hi, > > Now core-updates-frozen is merged. Now The Big Change [1 ]is done. Do > we go for v1.4 or v2.0? As I've mentioned previously, I'd go for a 1.4.0 release, since overall we've refined and improved (greatly!) what we already had rather than introduced something revolutionary. I'd keep a 2.0.0 for when we have p2p distributed substitutes, a custom graphical tool and/or integration with the 'Software' application in GNOME, this kind of big user-facing changes. But that's just my personal opinion :-). If the majority feels a 2.0.0 is more suitable, I won't mind. > In both case, what is the target for a release date? I propose January > 31rst. WDYT? I'd like to fix #52051 before issuing the first release candidate (RC). Assuming this can be made before the end of January with the first RC coming out around New Year, and that the kind of collaboration I've seen in the last weeks continues at the same intensity, this seems achievable. [...] >> The lesson of v1.0.1 [#,@] is: please help in testing the >> installer. :-) Yes, I also feel we should give the installer a lot of testing; it seems many people have had issues with it, especially when dealing with newer EFI machines. Unfortunately I don't have such a machine available for testing myself... >> How does it sound? >> >> Last, Guix is a =E2=80=9Crolling-release=E2=80=9C, so what does it mean = =E2=80=98release=E2=80=99? :-) >> The main argument for releasing, IMHO, is communication and so attract >> potential new users. :-) To me, it's a milestone that can be communicated and provides a more thoroughly tested (in theory) Guix installation image. Thanks for helping shape the release plan, Maxim