From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>
To: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>
Cc: guix-security@gnu.org, Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: backdoor injection via release tarballs combined with binary artifacts (was Re: Backdoor in upstream xz-utils)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 09:42:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v84liu9d.fsf@xelera.eu> (raw)
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Hi Attila,
sorry for the delay in my reply,
I'm asking myself if this (sub)thread should be "condensed" in a
dedicated RFC (are RFCs official workflows in Guix, now?); if so, I
volunteer to file such an RFC in the next weeks.
Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name> writes:
>> Are there other issues (different from the "host cannot execute target
>> binary") that makes relesase tarballs indispensable for some upstream
>> projects?
>
>
> i didn't mean to say that tarballs are indispensible. i just wanted to
> point out that it's not as simple as going through each package
> definition and robotically changing the source origin from tarball to
> git repo. it costs some effort, but i don't mean to suggest that it's
> not worth doing.
OK understood thanks!
[...]
> i think a good first step would be to reword the packaging guidelines
> in the doc to strongly prefer VCS sources instead of tarballs.
I agree.
>> Even if We™ (ehrm) find a solution to the source tarball reproducibility
>> problem (potentially allowing us to patch all the upstream makefiles
>> with specific phases in our packages definitions) are we really going to
>> start our own (or one managed by the reproducible build community)
>> "reproducible source tarballs" repository? Is this feaseable?
>
> but why would that be any better than simply building from git? which,
> i think, would even take less effort.
I agree, I was just brainstorming.
[...]
Thanks, Gio'
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Giovanni Biscuolo
Xelera IT Infrastructures
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-13 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-29 20:57 Backdoor in upstream xz-utils John Kehayias
2024-03-29 17:51 ` Ryan Prior
2024-03-29 20:39 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-03-29 20:55 ` Tomas Volf
2024-03-30 21:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-04-04 10:34 ` backdoor injection via release tarballs combined with binary artifacts (was Re: Backdoor in upstream xz-utils) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-04 15:12 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-04-04 16:47 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-04 15:47 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-04 19:48 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-04-04 20:32 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-04-10 13:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-11 12:43 ` Andreas Enge
2024-04-11 12:56 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-04-11 13:49 ` Andreas Enge
2024-04-11 14:05 ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-04-13 0:14 ` Skyler Ferris
2024-04-19 14:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-13 6:50 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-13 10:26 ` Skyler Ferris
2024-04-13 12:47 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-14 16:22 ` Skyler Ferris
2024-04-12 13:09 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-04-12 20:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-04-13 6:13 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-05-07 18:22 ` 3 kinds of bootstrap (was Re: backdoor injection via release tarballs combined with binary artifacts) Simon Tournier
2024-04-05 10:13 ` backdoor injection via release tarballs combined with binary artifacts (was Re: Backdoor in upstream xz-utils) Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-05 14:51 ` Attila Lendvai
2024-04-13 7:42 ` Giovanni Biscuolo [this message]
2024-04-04 23:03 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-04-05 7:06 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2024-04-05 7:39 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-04-05 16:52 ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2024-03-31 15:04 ` Backdoor in upstream xz-utils Rostislav Svoboda
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