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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Atomic file updates
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:00:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twgxcewr.fsf_-_@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160613112138.6a76d09b@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:21:38 +0200")

Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@scratchpost.org> skribis:

> However, I think the actual point is to have all the "update" actions be atomic. Because there's something in the Linux kernel config (only on GuixSD; works just fine on Ubuntu) which makes my laptop crashy (on the first larger disk write after standby wakeup) I have some experience with Guix non-atomicity and let me tell you it's not good. (Just the other day it broke the substitute cache - so I couldn't use substitutes at all anymore; I've since found and deleted the cache directory contents)

When you stumble upon issues like this, please report them to
bug-guix@gnu.org with as many details as possible.

In the case of substitutes, files under /var/guix/substitute/cache are
written atomically; in guix/scripts/substitute.scm, it looks like this:

        (with-atomic-file-output file
          (lambda (out)
            (write (cache-entry cache-url narinfo) out)

and effectively it writes to a temporary file, which is then rename(2)d.
I’m adding an fsync(2) call in ‘with-atomic-file-output’, which was
missing until now.

Regardless, you were very unlucky to end up with a truncated file.  ;-)

Anyway, if your “crashy” setup allows you to uncover other issues in
this area, please do report them!

> Therefore, while I wouldn't replace (or re-symlink) the entire /boot on guix reconfiguration (it might be on its own partition, too), it *may* be useful to use include files and put these there atomically, one file per version. I'm not sure whether grub supports something like "include *.inc" with wildcards but that would be an idea.

Under /boot, the only thing that GuixSD’s code controls is grub.cfg,
which is created atomically (see ‘install-grub’ in (gnu build install).)
The other files are installed by ‘grub-install’.

Thanks for your feedback,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-13 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-05 22:29 Implementing guix system rollback / switch-generation Chris Marusich
2016-06-06  8:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-09  7:19   ` Chris Marusich
2016-06-12 16:46     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-06-13  9:21       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2016-06-13 15:00         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-06-06 12:10 ` Leo Famulari

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