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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673734068; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SDlukngVkOCVgRQmP/Dha5hGomuv2cfJ74/beCIODV8eTSO2SvdKVQCz1X4dSwhOvp8ohq XG+DfLnNSehvXb13kYigPr6+tM/4QJhRDujplmsTR9MjheGQWUoESr3MKE8zNPLu5CHVoz 4/QJuV63xloSigKBnv+QQvEK8Ogl2h+N+eDUej2lAej/z2cXimMM268JQ1VoqLKctE2O1K USjYYqxgdUP3rZxMjQmX/Ar92FPBiLprkr4cRpW2Cb4D/eVlWlQ7DfOyQ0PiG9DyvJEltf GHpopXuh1uumkQXIFLt8w27ImVBaE8+21OcAz33mHILi/eLkOtr6THjLoTGcbw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=Rn8jMtjI; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673734068; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=dZFUatSzPLrDqMHgPs8qIjardhv1c4aqBfvkwW8tJ0Y=; b=ZOgOwH1I2Fk+901Fj4WpoUV7sP1BYSZJI+dUV+dWHbZHPWShdCl31Wc7eU+FHOg7wS7QvA Fq4k9xzQPCApSvibTg/cexucYOkXXVeVSD8/Y2U4nyXWZFuoaMbfy2G3/FBwvB8r2yscSc FNOynGqrnvX6MvV+JP6dv3aMOzW2tADUFy20PFtjuMICGEP+OfX9WmUXxhLG+k8Ag1nIr+ q0Nk7SCC6GBbzx2XBjgWAwGRgzOFT2vJulDlZrSTxm7IIsDHTc8/2uE6bXG/PIxqJXqbQu OVQmtyaF9pdby/tVqc+UXYHWPFdJUZKI7Lu04/md/2M8Zn4PIZukee3AXR7N5w== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.57 X-Spam-Score: -7.57 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0418A3EBF0 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=Rn8jMtjI; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-TUID: dEl4UwYnqYlz Hello! Over the course of a few years, the size of our packages has apparently kept growing. Example: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dv1.2.0 -- size emacs=20 store item total s= elf /gnu/store/118xpdazyylxa1rlc68h9lmh38vhxrb4-llvm-10.0.0 210.8 = 139.3 16.2% /gnu/store/1qmd9achfkm1njzxf8hi86q53pmy9sxk-mesa-20.0.7 369.2 = 131.3 15.3% /gnu/store/d83hc7cqgnhl1vlz1rv4ibkvaqaq2g35-emacs-27.1 859.7 = 106.2 12.4% /gnu/store/18hp7flyb3yid3yp49i6qcdq0sbi5l1n-guile-3.0.2 132.8 = 53.2 6.2% /gnu/store/9lckq1194qcy4a7kv8bihagd58shj7yr-gtk+-3.24.20 723.7 = 49.0 5.7% /gnu/store/qizplwwgqwyq6qmz1i6jlaib5kgzrgwq-icu4c-66.1 110.2 = 38.1 4.4% /gnu/store/fa6wj5bxkj5ll1d7292a70knmyl7a0cr-glibc-2.31 38.4 = 36.7 4.3% [=E2=80=A6] total: 859.7 MiB $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dv1.3.0 -- size emacs=20 store item total s= elf /gnu/store/g3idjpqsp2p2d163qfzskxj4k58nrx7f-llvm-11.0.0 220.0 = 148.6 16.9% /gnu/store/jf269s6clr6r57p8v5c3c1qkyra6apq2-mesa-20.2.4 389.1 = 141.6 16.1% /gnu/store/7nlq2v4000pw8vgj3m4vrwz072ib58xh-emacs-27.2 880.5 = 106.4 12.1% /gnu/store/18hp7flyb3yid3yp49i6qcdq0sbi5l1n-guile-3.0.2 132.8 = 53.2 6.0% /gnu/store/czf23hay13pp25yzrb4yq3n4gcri5r70-gtk+-3.24.24 744.3 = 49.1 5.6% /gnu/store/2wqjj3mkqdvsvksndr2hpjpi7qqwi7kr-icu4c-66.1 110.2 = 38.1 4.3% /gnu/store/fa6wj5bxkj5ll1d7292a70knmyl7a0cr-glibc-2.31 38.4 = 36.7 4.2% [=E2=80=A6] total: 880.5 MiB $ guix time-machine --commit=3Dv1.4.0 -- size emacs=20 store item total s= elf /gnu/store/i11jmrc90drpx9mc6cyb6s4pjny91qx6-emacs-28.2 1592.7 = 250.6 15.7% /gnu/store/sdzfljm6san79pqiy42yp0nzmkr2bafc-mesa-21.3.8 411.6 = 169.6 10.6% /gnu/store/6pdzpmxg5afzss6dlivq8z84sfa31x22-llvm-11.0.0 221.5 = 149.5 9.4% /gnu/store/lphzb1z0r4kbb453rsvnw7msrxxzp5r7-libgccjit-10.3.0 244.8 = 128.5 8.1% /gnu/store/pfas3c4lhr1jwkj2gl0yx8dg4xjjlp4r-mozjs-91.13.0 261.2 = 65.4 4.1% /gnu/store/hy6abswwv4d89zp464fw52z65fkzr7h5-perl-5.34.0 147.7 = 58.6 3.7% /gnu/store/zyqimpkmpffc24nwwqp46cicj8ss85y5-binutils-2.37 126.0 = 54.4 3.4% /gnu/store/cnfsv9ywaacyafkqdqsv2ry8f01yr7a9-guile-3.0.7 129.1 = 52.0 3.3% /gnu/store/4aq7hw017s9ihpm1rxpwfz28c80569z9-gtk+-3.24.30 1002.2 = 48.6 3.1% /gnu/store/vaxkf8cbc7slgc3ikm5qr3815wih93w8-ghostscript-with-cups-9.54.0 = 219.1 39.1 2.5% /gnu/store/bjycxjjkp1da53ijsa4hfdrz9mcgg55h-icu4c-69.1 110.7 = 38.0 2.4% /gnu/store/ayc9r7162rphy4zjw8ch01pmyh214h82-glibc-2.33 76.6 = 36.6 2.3% [=E2=80=A6] total: 1592.7 MiB --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I think something went wrong here. :-) In particular with Emacs itself (due to JIT + dependency on libgccjit, Binutils, etc.?) and with GTK+ (due to mozjs in polkit?). And then MESA and LLVM have always been problematically big. We should do better. I mean, it=E2=80=99s just a text editor, isn=E2=80=99= t it? Ludo=E2=80=99.