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Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pfiuh07 ([193.48.40.241]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l10-20020a5d4bca000000b003180155493esm23537292wrt.67.2023.09.07.08.18.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 07 Sep 2023 08:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Tournier In-Reply-To: <87h6ohc3gk.fsf@gmail.com> References: <295ef8c8-574a-4169-98f3-6d9aaeb773f1@telenet.be> <6a62aced-9138-0496-fb01-d5d8e89ba8d6@telenet.be> <87h6ohc3gk.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 13:32:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87tts6kym3.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -3.59 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2F908561ED X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.59 X-TUID: W27Yo3Kj/oqb Hi, On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 at 10:45, Maxim Cournoyer w= rote: > It's frustrating for users when a package is missing, but it's also > frustrating/inefficient for maintainers to stumble upon broken packages > when checking if an upgrade broke dependent packages (it takes time to > build them just to find out they fail, and researching they already > did), so a balance is needed. There is nothing worse as an user to have this experience: guix search foobar oh cool, foobar is there, let try it, guix shell foobar =E2=80=A6 wait =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6 stuff are building =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6 laptop is burning =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=A6 wait =E2=80=A6 Bang! Keeping broken packages is just annoyances. Contributor are annoyed because as said by the paragraph above. And user are annoyed as described just above. I am in favor to set a policy for removing then. The question is the way to detect them. QA can do whatever we want but until people are helping Chris because, IMHO, Chris is already enough busy to keep stuff running, we probably need to keep our process simple enough in order to stay actionable and avoid some vacuum of =E2=80=9Ccoulda, shoulda or woulda=E2=80=9D. For what my opinion is worth on that. :-) Cheers, simon