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In-Reply-To: <87y1942me8.fsf@lassieur.org> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Cl=C3=A9ment?= Lassieur"'s message of "Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:18:07 +0200") References: <874jciuxqq.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1942me8.fsf@lassieur.org> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:35:59 -0400 Message-ID: <87ttjpfo9s.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2b; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf2b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.65 X-Spam-Score: -6.65 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A1D2632D15 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: 0tOMXeabR72z Hello! Cl=C3=A9ment Lassieur writes: > On Wed, Apr 03 2024, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > >> It's been Guix policy to let people choose whether to install or not TLS >> root certificates and which one to their machine. While I applaud the >> idea to have the users make a conscious decision about it, in practice I >> suppose very few of us choose to *not* install any as that basically >> breaks using web browsers, especially ones like IceCat which (by >> default) ensures HTTPS is used on every page. > > I'd be surprised Icecat breaks from this as it uses its own cert > database and allows HTTP when HTTPS doesn't work. I didn't know Icecat had its own cert database. About allowing HTTP, it can access pages using it, but not without going through a "Continue despite security risks" dialog, and perhaps turning off the HTTPS everywhere add-on for the page, which is installed by default. --=20 Thanks, Maxim