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In-Reply-To: <87sez0zizk.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Thu, 02 May 2024 11:00:15 +0200") Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl References: <87sez19s1o.fsf@freakingpenguin.com> <87sez0zizk.fsf@gnu.org> cc: Vagrant Cascadian X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 13:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87ttjge9gb.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -9.45 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 13D1375981 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.45 X-TUID: gSPq3dqXRd4M Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Richard Sent skribis: > >> As everyone who's built Guix from source knows, when running ./configure >> on a system with an existing Guix installation you must remember to >> specify --localstatedir=3D/var and --sysconfdir=3D/etc. I think we should >> consider whether those variables should default to those values. > > I think it would make sense. > > Before I advocated that we should preferably stick to the GNU standards > and have users make informed choices (that=E2=80=99s how we ended up with= the > =E2=80=98GUIX_CHECK_LOCALSTATEDIR=E2=80=99 macro that warns users but let= s them > explicitly pass =E2=80=98--localstatedir=E2=80=99.) > > That was 8 years ago though (eight!). At this point I think defaulting > to /var and /etc would do more good than harm. > > What do others think? It would be certainly convenient for many us but there should probably a warning or an error? (cc: @Vagrant) when not on Guix System? Greetings Janneke --=20 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade= my.com