* GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
@ 2015-04-29 19:40 Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-29 20:18 ` Svante Signell
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-04-29 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel, bug-hurd; +Cc: Samuel Thibault
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Hello!
I’m pleased to announce that Manolis Ragkousis will (at last!) be
working on the Guix port to GNU/Hurd as part of Google’s Summer of
Code as described at
<http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas-2015.html#guix_hurd>.
Manolis will be mentored by Samuel Thibault and myself.
Manolis actually started working on this more than a year ago, so
chances are that you already met. ;-) So far Manolis has almost
completed preliminary work to permit cross-compilation from GNU/Linux to
GNU/Hurd using Guix. This was the first step towards bootstrapping
GuixSD natively on GNU/Hurd (see
<https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Bootstrapping.html>),
which will be the main focus of this GSoC. The second part of this GSoC
will focus on adjusting GuixSD to boot GNU/Hurd.
The code will be hosted in the Guix repo, probably in branches that we
will gradually merge in ‘master’. It is excellent news that Manolis’
work will be able to build upon releases of Hurd/Mach/MiG. The last
missing bit upstream is a libc-for-hurd tarball.
So please welcome Manolis again. :-)
Manolis, Samuel: feel free to mention whatever I forgot!
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 19:40 GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd Ludovic Courtès
@ 2015-04-29 20:18 ` Svante Signell
2015-04-29 21:01 ` Manolis Ragkousis
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From: Svante Signell @ 2015-04-29 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Ludovic Courtès
Cc: guix-devel, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault, Manolis Ragkousis
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 21:40 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hello!
> So please welcome Manolis again. :-)
Manolis, welcome. Any contribution to GNU/Hurd is appreciated,
especially the packaging :)
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 19:40 GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-29 20:18 ` Svante Signell
@ 2015-04-29 21:01 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2015-04-29 21:38 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-04-29 21:53 ` Andreas Enge
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From: Manolis Ragkousis @ 2015-04-29 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Samuel Thibault, Ludovic Courtès
Cc: Guix-devel, svante.signell, bug-hurd
Hello everyone and thank you :-)
On 29 April 2015 at 22:40, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> Manolis, Samuel: feel free to mention whatever I forgot!
>
I just wanted to add that I will keep a repo at github which I will upload any
(serious) local changes before I send them as patches so anyone can keep
an eye on the current status of my work.
Here is the link: https://github.com/Phant0mas/Guix-on-Hurd
Also I was discussing with Ludovic on how to keep everybody up to date.
We thought it would be nice to have regular irc talks and once per week I
will send a report on the status of my work on both mailing lists.
WDYT Samuel?
Thank you :-)
Manolis
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 21:01 ` Manolis Ragkousis
@ 2015-04-29 21:38 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-04-29 21:53 ` Andreas Enge
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From: Samuel Thibault @ 2015-04-29 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Manolis Ragkousis; +Cc: Guix-devel, bug-hurd, svante.signell
Manolis Ragkousis, le Thu 30 Apr 2015 00:01:44 +0300, a écrit :
> Also I was discussing with Ludovic on how to keep everybody up to date.
> We thought it would be nice to have regular irc talks
Indeed, that's a good way to make sure questions don't remain in the
dark.
Samuel
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 21:01 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2015-04-29 21:38 ` Samuel Thibault
@ 2015-04-29 21:53 ` Andreas Enge
2015-04-29 22:15 ` David Thompson
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From: Andreas Enge @ 2015-04-29 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Manolis Ragkousis; +Cc: Guix-devel, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault, svante.signell
Hello, Manolis, and welcome!
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:01:44AM +0300, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
> I just wanted to add that I will keep a repo at github which I will upload any
> (serious) local changes before I send them as patches so anyone can keep
> an eye on the current status of my work.
I am not quite sure how this is supposed to make things easier. Why not simply
use a branch in the guix repo (like the existing wip-hurd, or wip-wip-hurd for
very experimental changes)? Then every commit of yours will be sent to our
mailing list, and you develop directly in our infrastructure.
Not to mention that github is not exactly popular in the free software
community, see "service as a software substitute", or
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
Andreas
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 21:53 ` Andreas Enge
@ 2015-04-29 22:15 ` David Thompson
2015-04-30 8:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-30 8:27 ` Manolis Ragkousis
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From: David Thompson @ 2015-04-29 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Andreas Enge, Manolis Ragkousis
Cc: Guix-devel, svante.signell, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault
Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:
> Hello, Manolis, and welcome!
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:01:44AM +0300, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
>> I just wanted to add that I will keep a repo at github which I will upload any
>> (serious) local changes before I send them as patches so anyone can keep
>> an eye on the current status of my work.
>
> I am not quite sure how this is supposed to make things easier. Why not simply
> use a branch in the guix repo (like the existing wip-hurd, or wip-wip-hurd for
> very experimental changes)? Then every commit of yours will be sent to our
> mailing list, and you develop directly in our infrastructure.
>
> Not to mention that github is not exactly popular in the free software
> community, see "service as a software substitute", or
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
I don't see any issue with a personal fork hosted on GitHub.
--
David Thompson
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 21:53 ` Andreas Enge
2015-04-29 22:15 ` David Thompson
@ 2015-04-30 8:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-30 8:27 ` Manolis Ragkousis
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-04-30 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Andreas Enge
Cc: Guix-devel, svante.signell, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault,
Manolis Ragkousis
Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> skribis:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:01:44AM +0300, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
>> I just wanted to add that I will keep a repo at github which I will upload any
>> (serious) local changes before I send them as patches so anyone can keep
>> an eye on the current status of my work.
>
> I am not quite sure how this is supposed to make things easier. Why not simply
> use a branch in the guix repo (like the existing wip-hurd, or wip-wip-hurd for
> very experimental changes)? Then every commit of yours will be sent to our
> mailing list, and you develop directly in our infrastructure.
I think it’s fine if Manolis wants to have experiments in another repo.
The “final” code will indeed go to Savannah anyway, and Manolis is
already used to it.
Ludo’.
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-29 21:53 ` Andreas Enge
2015-04-29 22:15 ` David Thompson
2015-04-30 8:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2015-04-30 8:27 ` Manolis Ragkousis
2015-04-30 10:39 ` Svante Signell
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From: Manolis Ragkousis @ 2015-04-30 8:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Andreas Enge; +Cc: Guix-devel, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault
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Hey Andreas :D
On 30 Apr 2015 00:53, "Andreas Enge" <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
> I am not quite sure how this is supposed to make things easier. Why not
simply
> use a branch in the guix repo (like the existing wip-hurd, or
wip-wip-hurd for
> very experimental changes)? Then every commit of yours will be sent to our
> mailing list, and you develop directly in our infrastructure.
I just want to have a remote backup of my local changes, as well as give
everyone an early look of what I am currently working on, before I send any
patches. I prefer having it hosted somewhere else, in case I do something
stupid :).
As David said, there shouldn't be any issues with that.
> Not to mention that github is not exactly popular in the free software
> community, see "service as a software substitute", or
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
I know. I would have preferred gitorious for this, but gitorious is
shutting down so I couldn't think of an alternative.
Manolis
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-30 8:27 ` Manolis Ragkousis
@ 2015-04-30 10:39 ` Svante Signell
2015-04-30 10:40 ` A. Fleckenstein
2015-04-30 10:42 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
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From: Svante Signell @ 2015-04-30 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Manolis Ragkousis; +Cc: bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault, Guix-devel
On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 11:27 +0300, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
> Hey Andreas :D
>
> On 30 Apr 2015 00:53, "Andreas Enge" <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
>
> > Not to mention that github is not exactly popular in the free
> software
> > community, see "service as a software substitute", or
> >
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
>
> I know. I would have preferred gitorious for this, but gitorious is
> shutting down so I couldn't think of an alternative.
What about gitlab?
>
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-30 10:39 ` Svante Signell
@ 2015-04-30 10:40 ` A. Fleckenstein
2015-04-30 10:42 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
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From: A. Fleckenstein @ 2015-04-30 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Svante Signell, Manolis Ragkousis
Cc: dthompson2, Ludovic Courtès, Samuel Thibault, Andreas Enge,
Guix-devel, bug-hurd
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There is also notabug.org
On April 30, 2015 6:39:39 AM EDT, Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 11:27 +0300, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
>> Hey Andreas :D
>>
>> On 30 Apr 2015 00:53, "Andreas Enge" <andreas@enge.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > Not to mention that github is not exactly popular in the free
>> software
>> > community, see "service as a software substitute", or
>> >
>>
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
>>
>> I know. I would have preferred gitorious for this, but gitorious is
>> shutting down so I couldn't think of an alternative.
>
>What about gitlab?
>>
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
2015-04-30 10:39 ` Svante Signell
2015-04-30 10:40 ` A. Fleckenstein
@ 2015-04-30 10:42 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
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From: Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer @ 2015-04-30 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Svante Signell; +Cc: Guix-devel, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com> writes:
> What about gitlab?
The GitLab web service runs on "GitLab Enterprise Edition" which is
proprietary software.
The main Gitorious alternatives I'm aware of are notabug.org and
gitbull.org, the former running Gogs and the latter Kallithea.
Taylan
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* Re: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd
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@ 2015-05-10 20:09 ` Manolis Ragkousis
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From: Manolis Ragkousis @ 2015-05-10 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Thomas Schwinge, Samuel Thibault; +Cc: Guix-devel, bug-hurd
Hello everyone,
Everything works great with those branches.
Thomas please have a look at uploading a tarball. :-)
Manolis
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* glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 (was: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd)
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@ 2015-05-15 14:46 ` Thomas Schwinge
2015-05-15 14:50 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-05-15 16:53 ` glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 Ludovic Courtès
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From: Thomas Schwinge @ 2015-05-15 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: bug-hurd, Manolis Ragkousis, Samuel Thibault
Cc: guix-devel, Ludovic Courtès
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Hi!
On Thu, 7 May 2015 01:43:05 +0200, Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> wrote:
> Ludovic Courtès, le Wed 29 Apr 2015 21:40:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > The last missing bit upstream is a libc-for-hurd tarball.
>
> I have prepared a master-glibc branch in the libpthread repo.
Thanks! However, shouldn't that just be libpthread's master branch,
nowadays? (Assuming the idea still is that libpthread is only to be
built as part of glibc's build process?)
> $ git clone git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/hurd/glibc.git/
> $ cd glibc
> $ git checkout tschwinge/Roger_Whittaker
> $ git clone git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/hurd/libpthread.git/
> $ cd libpthread
> $ git checkout master-glibc
> seems to be going fine. Thomas, can you have a look at uploading a
> tarball of this so it can be used as a base for Guix?
Snapshot uploaded: <http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/>, and corresponding
Git tags glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 pushed to the Savannah glibc
and libpthread repositories.
Grüße,
Thomas
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* Re: glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 (was: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd)
2015-05-15 14:46 ` glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 (was: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd) Thomas Schwinge
@ 2015-05-15 14:50 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-05-15 16:53 ` glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 Ludovic Courtès
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From: Samuel Thibault @ 2015-05-15 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Thomas Schwinge
Cc: guix-devel, Ludovic Courtès, bug-hurd, Manolis Ragkousis
Thomas Schwinge, le Fri 15 May 2015 16:46:43 +0200, a écrit :
> On Thu, 7 May 2015 01:43:05 +0200, Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Ludovic Courtès, le Wed 29 Apr 2015 21:40:13 +0200, a écrit :
> > > The last missing bit upstream is a libc-for-hurd tarball.
> >
> > I have prepared a master-glibc branch in the libpthread repo.
>
> Thanks! However, shouldn't that just be libpthread's master branch,
> nowadays? (Assuming the idea still is that libpthread is only to be
> built as part of glibc's build process?)
With that assumption, yes.
> > $ git clone git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/hurd/glibc.git/
> > $ cd glibc
> > $ git checkout tschwinge/Roger_Whittaker
> > $ git clone git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/hurd/libpthread.git/
> > $ cd libpthread
> > $ git checkout master-glibc
>
> > seems to be going fine. Thomas, can you have a look at uploading a
> > tarball of this so it can be used as a base for Guix?
>
> Snapshot uploaded: <http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/>,
Thanks!
Samuel
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* Re: glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515
2015-05-15 14:46 ` glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 (was: GSoC: Manolis to work on Guix port to GNU/Hurd) Thomas Schwinge
2015-05-15 14:50 ` Samuel Thibault
@ 2015-05-15 16:53 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2015-05-15 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Thomas Schwinge; +Cc: guix-devel, bug-hurd, Samuel Thibault
Thomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com> skribis:
> Snapshot uploaded: <http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/>, and corresponding
> Git tags glibc-2.19-hurd+libpthread-20150515 pushed to the Savannah glibc
> and libpthread repositories.
Wonderful! Manolis should feel relieved now. ;-)
I thought this was 2.21, but 2.19 should be fine too.
Thank you!
Ludo’.
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