From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andy Wingo Subject: Re: [PATCHES] Update elogind to 219.13 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 12:03:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87si025z39.fsf@igalia.com> References: <877fhf8n4f.fsf@pobox.com> <87a8mbe1cl.fsf@gnu.org> <871t7m7jqx.fsf@igalia.com> <87pov6vc6j.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acsxI-0007Zi-7u for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 06:04:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1acsxE-0000Vg-WE for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 06:04:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87pov6vc6j.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Mon, 07 Mar 2016 11:01:56 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org On Mon 07 Mar 2016 11:01, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > BTW, a few days ago we were discussing on IRC the fact that elogind > would start before dbus-daemon, and thus get respawned a couple of times > at system startup, etc. Yesterday, with commit 956ad60, I changed it to > be started through D-Bus activation, so we should be safe now. FWIW I am not sure that this is the right solution. Logind has some other interfaces (notably the /run/systemd file system and the cgroups) and it really wants to be running from beginning to end. If it's bus-activated, could it be killed at some point if it's inactive? If so that would be bad I think. Maybe it's OK. It certainly solves the race, in some way. I think before a "guix system reconfigure" would restart logind, also; is that still the case? Which is better? Very murky to me. Andy