From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alex Kost Subject: Re: Emacs-Guix released outside from Guix Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:38:58 +0300 Message-ID: <87shpjvbt9.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20161215144849.2990-1-alezost@gmail.com> <871sx9atdh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg18k8td.fsf@elephly.net> <87bmwbvtl6.fsf@gmail.com> <20161217090014.GA19019@jocasta.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38511) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ5eG-0003Cq-7G for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:39:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ5eC-0000fb-5g for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:39:08 -0500 Received: from mail-lf0-x242.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::242]:32929) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ5eB-0000eQ-UV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:39:04 -0500 Received: by mail-lf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id y21so8679818lfa.0 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:39:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20161217090014.GA19019@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Sat, 17 Dec 2016 10:00:14 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: John Darrington Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org John Darrington (2016-12-17 10:00 +0100) wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 11:38:13AM +0300, Alex Kost wrote: > > > It would be a great loss and a technical hindrance if guix.el = was moved > > out of Guix. I don???t want that to happen, so let me know wh= at the > > ransom should be! ;-) > > There shouldn't be any ransom! I just didn't feel I had enough free= dom > when I was working on it inside Guix. > > > Could you elaborate here? What circumstances made you feel this way? There are no any circumstances. It's just that when you maintain your own project, you can do whatever seems appropriate to you; while with a community-driven (I don't know a correct term) project, you have to=E2=80=A6 well, to communicate =E2=80=93 the thing I don't like quite a lot. So it's= not a Guix community problem! > Have there been specific events which made you feel your freedom was > being limited? No, not at all! It's just my attitude as I tried to explain. > What would you have liked to have seen done differently? Well, I agree with Pjotr's points. I think the most important is that all the existing rules make a very high barrier to overcome for the potential contributors. I'm not talking about myself, I'm fine with the rules, but I see how all these guidelines, coding styles and sending patches to the mailing list can scare people. But all this has nothing to do with separating Emacs-Guix. It's just my egoism: I want to push commits without discussing (or simple sending patches). --=20 Alex