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* Errors encountered in building guix from source.
@ 2018-01-20 20:16 Fis Trivial
  2018-01-20 20:45 ` Pjotr Prins
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Fis Trivial @ 2018-01-20 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: guix-devel@gnu.org

I am currently running guix on top of Fedora 26. This is a mix of several
problems, and possibly contains bugs in guix, I am not sure if I have done
anything wrong. So I will try to describe them in order. If you believe I
should make separate threads or fill a bug report, just tell me to.


I tried to build guix from git repo according to this menu:
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Building-from-Git

* Do as the menu said
So I ran the following command in sequence:
$ guix environment guix --ad-hoc help2man git strace
$ ./bootstrap
$ ./configure --localstatedir=/var

The last configure command resulted in error, here is the last part from output:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
configure: checking for guile 2.2
configure: found guile 2.2
checking for guile-2.2... no
checking for guile2.2... no
checking for guile-2... no
checking for guile2... /usr/bin/guile2
configure: error: found development files for Guile 2.2, but /usr/bin/guile2 has effective version 2.0
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

It seems configure script tried to use the guile provided by Fedora.


* Add --pure option to `guix environment`
Then I tried again the added --pure option to `guix environment`:
$ guix environment  guix --ad-hoc help2man git strace --pure

During the process, following questions were emitted by command-not-found
facility provided by Fedora:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Install package 'cargo' to provide command 'cargo'? [N/y] n

Install package 'procps-ng' to provide command 'pidof'? [N/y] n

Install package 'cargo' to provide command 'cargo'? [N/y] n

Install package 'procps-ng' to provide command 'pidof'? [N/y] n
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Even if I answer 'y', those packages won't be successfully installed by Fedora
since I already have them.

Aside from this, The bootstrap and configure ran successfully. But `make check`
failed, here is the last part of the output:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  LOAD     guix/scripts/gc.scm
  LOAD     guix/scripts/hash.scm
  LOAD     guix/scripts/pack.scm
Backtrace:
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
    142:2 19 (dynamic-wind _ _ #<procedure 1ced4c0 at ice-9/eval.scm…>)
    142:2 18 (dynamic-wind _ _ #<procedure 1ced060 at ice-9/eval.scm…>)
In ice-9/eval.scm:
    619:8 17 (_ #(#(#<directory (guix build compile) 16c28c0> #<…> …)))
    619:8 16 (_ #(#(#(#(#(#(#(#<directory (guix b…> …)) …) …) …) …) …))
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
    152:2 15 (with-fluid* _ _ _)
  2792:17 14 (resolve-interface (guix scripts pack) #:select _ #:hide …)
  2718:10 13 (_ (guix scripts pack) _ _ #:ensure _)
  2986:16 12 (try-module-autoload _ _)
   2316:4 11 (save-module-excursion #<procedure 9a615d0 at ice-9/boo…>)
  3006:22 10 (_)
In unknown file:
           9 (primitive-load-path "guix/scripts/pack" #<procedure 1b…>)
In ice-9/eval.scm:
   626:19  8 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
   173:39  7 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
   202:51  6 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
   202:35  5 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
    155:9  4 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
   202:35  3 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
    159:9  2 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
   223:20  1 (proc #<directory (guix scripts pack) 90b26e0>)
In unknown file:
           0 (%resolve-variable (7 . gzip) #<directory (guix scripts…>)

ERROR: In procedure %resolve-variable:
ERROR: gzip: unbound variable

Some deprecated features have been used.  Set the environment
variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the
program to get more information.  Set it to "no" to suppress
this message.
make[2]: *** [Makefile:5361: make-go] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/fis/Workspace/guix'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:4490: check-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/fis/Workspace/guix'
make: *** [Makefile:4955: check] Error 2
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If I ignore the failure and then try:
$ sudo ./pre-inst-env guix-daemon --build-users-group=guixbuild

I will be told that sudo command is not availabile.
Adding sudo as a dependency in environment will not work, due to this error:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
sudo: /gnu/store/p1fgwswygbw0fgbnpajdhxb0ylmqa20i-profile/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

* Platform
Fedora 26 x86_64

* Version
The version of guix I'm running:
guix (GNU Guix) d77f2bd81f20a312032d6a7357e4f6f52047bf9c

The version of guix I'm trying to build:
commit ede75282b86ee9cd3b9066c4ce7b00387878709b

* Summary
So, as a summary, I encountered the following errors:
1. configure failed if I don't add --pure option to `guix environment`.
2. If I add --pure option to `guix environment`:
   1. Fedora will ask me whether should it install some packages.
   2. `make check` failed
   3. sudo is missing.

Is there anything I did wrong? Or is it a bug in guix? If so, should I report
them in one or multiple bug reports?

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-20 20:16 Errors encountered in building guix from source Fis Trivial
@ 2018-01-20 20:45 ` Pjotr Prins
  2018-01-21  9:13   ` Fis Trivial
  2018-01-24 14:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-01-25 15:12 ` Oleg Pykhalov
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pjotr Prins @ 2018-01-20 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 08:16:04PM +0000, Fis Trivial wrote:
> I am currently running guix on top of Fedora 26. This is a mix of several
> problems, and possibly contains bugs in guix, I am not sure if I have done
> anything wrong. So I will try to describe them in order. If you believe I
> should make separate threads or fill a bug report, just tell me to.
> 
> 
> I tried to build guix from git repo according to this menu:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Building-from-Git
> 
> * Do as the menu said
> So I ran the following command in sequence:
> $ guix environment guix --ad-hoc help2man git strace
> $ ./bootstrap
> $ ./configure --localstatedir=/var

This looks inadequate to me. Try my

https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-notes/blob/master/INSTALL.org

See building guix from guix - the bullet proof way. It builds Guix
inside Guix tooling - no leakage.

Pj.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-20 20:45 ` Pjotr Prins
@ 2018-01-21  9:13   ` Fis Trivial
  2018-01-21 10:50     ` Pjotr Prins
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Fis Trivial @ 2018-01-21  9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pjotr Prins; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org



On 01/21/2018 04:45 AM, Pjotr Prins wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 08:16:04PM +0000, Fis Trivial wrote:
>> I am currently running guix on top of Fedora 26. This is a mix of several
>> problems, and possibly contains bugs in guix, I am not sure if I have done
>> anything wrong. So I will try to describe them in order. If you believe I
>> should make separate threads or fill a bug report, just tell me to.
>>
>>
>> I tried to build guix from git repo according to this menu:
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Building-from-Git
>>
>> * Do as the menu said
>> So I ran the following command in sequence:
>> $ guix environment guix --ad-hoc help2man git strace
>> $ ./bootstrap
>> $ ./configure --localstatedir=/var
> 
> This looks inadequate to me. Try my
> 
> https://gitlab.com/pjotrp/guix-notes/blob/master/INSTALL.org
> 
> See building guix from guix - the bullet proof way. It builds Guix
> inside Guix tooling - no leakage.
> 
> Pj.
> 
Running `make` didn't succeed, I should fill a bug report now.
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Backtrace:
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
    142:2 19 (dynamic-wind _ _ #<procedure 23b9940 at ice-9/eval.scm?>)
    142:2 18 (dynamic-wind _ _ #<procedure 23b95c0 at ice-9/eval.scm?>)
In ice-9/eval.scm:
    619:8 17 (_ #(#(#<directory (guix build compile) 21ad8c0> #<?> ?)))
    619:8 16 (_ #(#(#(#(#(#(#(#<directory (guix b?> ?)) ?) ?) ?) ?) ?))
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
    152:2 15 (with-fluid* _ _ _)
  2792:17 14 (resolve-interface (guix scripts pack) #:select _ #:hide ?)
  2718:10 13 (_ (guix scripts pack) _ _ #:ensure _)
  2986:16 12 (try-module-autoload _ _)
   2316:4 11 (save-module-excursion #<procedure 5f2edb0 at ice-9/boo?>)
  3006:22 10 (_)
In unknown file:
           9 (primitive-load-path "guix/scripts/pack" #<procedure 5e?>)
In ice-9/eval.scm:
   626:19  8 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
   173:39  7 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
   202:51  6 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
   202:35  5 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
    155:9  4 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
   202:35  3 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
    159:9  2 (_ #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
   223:20  1 (proc #<directory (guix scripts pack) 683f500>)
In unknown file:
           0 (%resolve-variable (7 . gzip) #<directory (guix scripts?>)

ERROR: In procedure %resolve-variable:
ERROR: gzip: unbound variable

Some deprecated features have been used.  Set the environment
variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the
program to get more information.  Set it to "no" to suppress
this message.
make[2]: *** [Makefile:5361: make-go] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/fis/Workspace/guix'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:4490: all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/fis/Workspace/guix'
make: *** [Makefile:3059: all] Error 2
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-21  9:13   ` Fis Trivial
@ 2018-01-21 10:50     ` Pjotr Prins
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Pjotr Prins @ 2018-01-21 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 09:13:58AM +0000, Fis Trivial wrote:
> Running `make` didn't succeed, I should fill a bug report now.

What are the exact commands you are giving?

Pj.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-20 20:16 Errors encountered in building guix from source Fis Trivial
  2018-01-20 20:45 ` Pjotr Prins
@ 2018-01-24 14:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2018-01-25 15:12 ` Oleg Pykhalov
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2018-01-24 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

Fis Trivial <ybbs.daans@hotmail.com> skribis:

> * Do as the menu said
> So I ran the following command in sequence:
> $ guix environment guix --ad-hoc help2man git strace
> $ ./bootstrap
> $ ./configure --localstatedir=/var
>
> The last configure command resulted in error, here is the last part from output:
>
> configure: checking for guile 2.2
> configure: found guile 2.2
> checking for guile-2.2... no
> checking for guile2.2... no
> checking for guile-2... no
> checking for guile2... /usr/bin/guile2
> configure: error: found development files for Guile 2.2, but /usr/bin/guile2 has effective version 2.0

Most likely your .bashrc, .bash_profile, or similar is overriding PATH
and other environment variables defined by ‘guix environment’, which is
why /usr/bin/guile2 takes precedence.

See the footnote at
<https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Invoking-guix-environment.html#FOOT15>.

HTH,
Ludo’.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-20 20:16 Errors encountered in building guix from source Fis Trivial
  2018-01-20 20:45 ` Pjotr Prins
  2018-01-24 14:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2018-01-25 15:12 ` Oleg Pykhalov
  2018-01-25 20:58   ` Fis Trivial
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Pykhalov @ 2018-01-25 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

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Hello Fis,

Fis Trivial <ybbs.daans@hotmail.com> writes:

[...]

> * Add --pure option to `guix environment`

This is what I do even on GuixSD for Guix's Git repository, too.

> Then I tried again the added --pure option to `guix environment`:
> $ guix environment  guix --ad-hoc help2man git strace --pure
>
> During the process, following questions were emitted by command-not-found
> facility provided by Fedora:
>
> Install package 'cargo' to provide command 'cargo'? [N/y] n

[...]

> Even if I answer 'y', those packages won't be successfully installed by Fedora
> since I already have them.

Installing a missing package by guessing from non-existing command is a
Fedora's “feauture” of Bash.  I believe this is a reason of following
failures.  You probably could avoid this by starting a Bash process with

    bash --noprofile

[...]

> If I ignore the failure and then try:
> $ sudo ./pre-inst-env guix-daemon --build-users-group=guixbuild
> 
> I will be told that sudo command is not availabile.
> Adding sudo as a dependency in environment will not work, due to this error:
>
> sudo: /gnu/store/p1fgwswygbw0fgbnpajdhxb0ylmqa20i-profile/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set

Please, run 'sudo' not from 'guix environment'.  (Press Ctrl+D to exit
from an 'guix environment').

[...]


Oleg.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-25 15:12 ` Oleg Pykhalov
@ 2018-01-25 20:58   ` Fis Trivial
  2018-01-26 15:25     ` Oleg Pykhalov
  2018-01-28  3:16     ` Chris Marusich
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Fis Trivial @ 2018-01-25 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleg Pykhalov; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

Sorry for the really late reply.

>
> Installing a missing package by guessing from non-existing command is a
> Fedora's “feauture” of Bash.  I believe this is a reason of following
> failures.  You probably could avoid this by starting a Bash process with
>
>     bash --noprofile
>
> [...]
>
It would be nice to be included in document.

>
> Please, run 'sudo' not from 'guix environment'.  (Press Ctrl+D to exit
> from an 'guix environment').
>

Can we put it in the document too? :)

>
> What are the exact commands you are giving?
>
> Pj.
>

I succeeded at the second time according to your guide, don't know why,
maybe missing something. All in all, I sent the remaining patches for
some packages to guix and those are accepted. :)

I think I will have to disable guix for a while since it's really messing
up with my environment and I currently don't have the time to deal with
it. :(
I will come back latter and try joining the development for guix itself,
really sorry.

Fis.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-25 20:58   ` Fis Trivial
@ 2018-01-26 15:25     ` Oleg Pykhalov
  2018-01-27 15:12       ` Fis Trivial
  2018-01-28  3:16     ` Chris Marusich
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Pykhalov @ 2018-01-26 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

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Fis Trivial <ybbs.daans@hotmail.com> writes:

> Sorry for the really late reply.

It's OK, we don't hurry.  :-)

>> Installing a missing package by guessing from non-existing command is a
>> Fedora's “feauture” of Bash.  I believe this is a reason of following
>> failures.  You probably could avoid this by starting a Bash process with
>>
>>     bash --noprofile
>>
>> [...]
>>
> It would be nice to be included in document.

Maybe, but I personally don't think so, because it depends on the
distribution where you are running Guix on.  I think it's assumed you
familiar with all distribution's pitfalls.

>> Please, run 'sudo' not from 'guix environment'.  (Press Ctrl+D to exit
>> from an 'guix environment').
>>
>
> Can we put it in the document too? :)

I don't know about how to describe it properly.  'Do not do a thing from
guix environment' is a good for mailing list, but bad for the
documentation, I believe.  Because the documentation should teach people
and not give a solution.  This is why Nix discontinued their wiki site.

>> What are the exact commands you are giving?
>>
>> Pj.
>>
>
> I succeeded at the second time according to your guide, don't know why,
> maybe missing something. All in all, I sent the remaining patches for
> some packages to guix and those are accepted. :)
>
> I think I will have to disable guix for a while since it's really messing
> up with my environment and I currently don't have the time to deal with
> it. :(
> I will come back latter and try joining the development for guix itself,
> really sorry.

What do you mean by disable?  You could invoke it at any time with a
clean Bash session.  Also I would recommend to search for a Fedora's
Bash feature for installing programms if a command is missing and
disable/remove it.  Fedora's folks probably could help this it.

Oleg.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-26 15:25     ` Oleg Pykhalov
@ 2018-01-27 15:12       ` Fis Trivial
  2018-01-29 19:20         ` Oleg Pykhalov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Fis Trivial @ 2018-01-27 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleg Pykhalov; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org


>
> What do you mean by disable?  You could invoke it at any time with a
> clean Bash session.  Also I would recommend to search for a Fedora's
> Bash feature for installing programms if a command is missing and
> disable/remove it.  Fedora's folks probably could help this it.
>
> Oleg.

Thanks for the suggestion.

It means stop sourcing guix-profile/etc/profile at .bash_profile, and
use packages from Fedora's repo rather than guix.

I tried nix a little before I met guix, I did noticed they don't export
this much environment variables in its profile file, they just
wrap/patch those needed programms. I tried to compare nix with guix by
installing a similar set of packages from both platform. On the
nix side, the only non-prefixed environment variable exported is
PATH, while guix exported lots of other envs. (Not exactly the
same the same set of packages, but the comparison does not loss it's
meaning). Those exported envs are real problem on a foreign
distribution.

I will post the profile files in another thread latter if its helpful.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-25 20:58   ` Fis Trivial
  2018-01-26 15:25     ` Oleg Pykhalov
@ 2018-01-28  3:16     ` Chris Marusich
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Chris Marusich @ 2018-01-28  3:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

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Fis Trivial <ybbs.daans@hotmail.com> writes:

> I think I will have to disable guix for a while since it's really messing
> up with my environment and I currently don't have the time to deal with
> it. :(
> I will come back latter and try joining the development for guix itself,
> really sorry.

I hope you come back soon!  Even though these kinds of things can be a
rocky road sometimes, bug reports and feedback by people like you are
essential for driving improvements in Guix.

Oleg Pykhalov <go.wigust@gmail.com> writes:

>> Can we put it in the document too? :)
>
> I don't know about how to describe it properly.  'Do not do a thing from
> guix environment' is a good for mailing list, but bad for the
> documentation, I believe.  Because the documentation should teach people
> and not give a solution.  This is why Nix discontinued their wiki site.

I feel your pain here, Fis.  I have felt the same way when I've been
bitten by specific problems with various technologies, including Guix
and Guile.  But Oleg is right: ultimately, putting specific solutions to
specific problems like this in the manual does not tend to improve the
quality of the manual.

-- 
Chris

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-27 15:12       ` Fis Trivial
@ 2018-01-29 19:20         ` Oleg Pykhalov
  2018-01-29 22:35           ` Fis Trivial
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Pykhalov @ 2018-01-29 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fis Trivial; +Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org

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Fis Trivial <ybbs.daans@hotmail.com> writes:

>> What do you mean by disable?  You could invoke it at any time with a
>> clean Bash session.  Also I would recommend to search for a Fedora's
>> Bash feature for installing programms if a command is missing and
>> disable/remove it.  

>> Fedora's folks probably could help this it.

Also I see people with Fedora use Guix, because there are several
repositories [1] with RPM packages to install Guix in Fedora.  So I
really recommend to chat or mail with Fedora community.

> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> It means stop sourcing guix-profile/etc/profile at .bash_profile, and
> use packages from Fedora's repo rather than guix.

Well, you could come back at any time.  Always welcome!

> I tried nix a little before I met guix, I did noticed they don't
> export this much environment variables in its profile file, they just
> wrap/patch those needed programms. I tried to compare nix with guix by
> installing a similar set of packages from both platform. On the nix
> side, the only non-prefixed environment variable exported is PATH,
> while guix exported lots of other envs. (Not exactly the same the same
> set of packages, but the comparison does not loss it's meaning).

> Those exported envs are real problem on a foreign distribution.

Sorry, I don't see a problem because of environment variables in the
current case.  What I see is an issue with a foreign distro itself.
Particularly a program called PackageKit-command-not-found [2] which you
could remove with `sudo dnf remove PackageKit-command-not-found`.

> I will post the profile files in another thread latter if its helpful.

It maybe be helpful.  Thank you!

Footnotes: 
[1]  https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/fulltext/?fulltext=guix
[2]  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PackageKitCommandNotFound

Oleg.

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* Re: Errors encountered in building guix from source.
  2018-01-29 19:20         ` Oleg Pykhalov
@ 2018-01-29 22:35           ` Fis Trivial
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Fis Trivial @ 2018-01-29 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oleg Pykhalov; +Cc: guix-devel


>
>> I will post the profile files in another thread latter if its helpful.
>
> It maybe be helpful.  Thank you!
>
I don't think it's needed. Please check https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-01/msg00507.html

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2018-01-20 20:16 Errors encountered in building guix from source Fis Trivial
2018-01-20 20:45 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-21  9:13   ` Fis Trivial
2018-01-21 10:50     ` Pjotr Prins
2018-01-24 14:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-01-25 15:12 ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-01-25 20:58   ` Fis Trivial
2018-01-26 15:25     ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-01-27 15:12       ` Fis Trivial
2018-01-29 19:20         ` Oleg Pykhalov
2018-01-29 22:35           ` Fis Trivial
2018-01-28  3:16     ` Chris Marusich

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